Le 13-mars-07, à 05:03, Brent Meeker a écrit :

> But there is no reason to believe there is any "root" cause that is 
> deeper than variation with natural selection.  You have not presented 
> any argument for the existence of this "ultimate" or "root".  You 
> merely refer to "closed science" as though that proved something - but 
> it begs the question.  You have to show there is something outside 
> science in order to know that it is "closed"; not just that there is 
> something science has not explained, there's lots of that, but 
> something that science cannot, in-principle explain.

Assuming comp, we can know that science will never been able to explain 
where natural numbers come from. That's an insoluble mystery.
It makes science open. Forever.

But then comp *can* explain (but does not yet provide more than an 
embryo of explanation, yet already confirmed) where waves and particles 
come from, and also, unlike physics, why waves and particles can hurt 
(cf G/G*).



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