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Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 18:18:59 +1000 From: Russell Standish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Ricardo Aler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Theory of Nothing In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 11:53:53AM +0200, Ricardo Aler wrote: > Hi Russell, > > > Yes. However, you are trying to derive QM from first principles, so > it's a little unfair to use experimental results as well :). Also, No - first principles would say complex measure is more likely than a real measure. All the experimental results say is that there is no need to go looking for an extra principle to impose a real measure. > when counting the number of observers, it seems more natural to use a > real measure. Not much of a reason... > > But it would be wonderful if it could be shown that the existence of > life requires complex measures (which is very likely true). > Its the other way around - the existence of life does not require a real measure. > > >> Finally, do you think that entanglement is a direct consequence of > >> your theory of observation? > > > >Yes, in that entanglement is a direct consequence of the mathematical > >formulation of QM, which follows (at least if I'm correct :) ) from my > >assumptions. However, trying to see how this might be so intuitively > >without going through the maths route is tough. > > Yes, but I mean, does entanglement depend on using a complex measure > or another extra assumption not directly based on your theory of > observation (for instance, the correspondence principle is not based > on your theory of observation either, but on Vic Stenger's Minkowskian > space argument). I don't believe entangled states depend on the correspondence principle, but I have to admit that bread-and-butter QM calculations are not my usual line of work. > > >Good questions Ricardo. I've taken the liberty of posting this > >response to the everything-list and to avoid-L, as the points you > >raise are of general interest. > > Yes please. I belonged to the avoid-l many years ago, until I realized > that I was dedicating more time to it than I should :). I guess Jim > Humphreys must still be there and converted to atheism :). Say hi to > Vic Stenger. > > Cheers. > > -- > Ricardo. > ------------- > mailto: "Ricardo Aler Mur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://www.uc3m.es/uc3m/dpto/INF/aler -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A/Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Mathematics UNSW SYDNEY 2052 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Australia http://www.hpcoders.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- End forwarded message ----- -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A/Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Mathematics UNSW SYDNEY 2052 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Australia http://www.hpcoders.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
