On 12/06/07, Colin Hales <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

The bogus logic I detect in posts around this area...
> 'Humans are complex and are conscious'
> 'Humans were made by a complex biosphere'
> therefore
> 'The biosphere is conscious'

That conclusion is spurious, but it is the case that non-coscious
evolutionary processes can give rise to very elaborate "technology", namely
life, which goes against your theory that only consciousness can produce new

That assumes that complexity itself (organisation of information) is the
> origin of consciousness in some unspecified, unjustified way. This
> position is completely unable to make any empirical predictions about the
> nature of human conscousness (eg why your cortex generates qualia and your
> spinal chord doesn't - a physiologically proven fact).

Well, why does your eye generate visual qualia and not your big toe? It's
because the big toe lacks the necessary machinery.

Stathis Papaioannou

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