Le 06-juil.-07, à 14:00, Jason a écrit :
> > > > On Jul 5, 2:14 pm, LauLuna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I don't see how to reconcile free will with computationalism either. >> > > It seems like you are an incompatibilist concerning free will. > Freewill can be reconciled with computationalism (or any deterministic > system) if one accepts compatabilism ( > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_will#Compatibilism > ). More worrisome than determinism's affect on freewill, however, is > many-worlds (or other everything/ultimate ensemble theories). Whereas > determinism says the future is written in stone, many-worlds would say > all futures are written in stone. Like comp already say. At least with QM we know that the future are weighted and free-will will correspond to choosing among normal worlds. With comp, there is only promising results in that direction, (which could lead to a refutation of comp). John Bell (the physicist, not the quantum logician) has also crticized the MWI with respect to free-will, but this does not follow from the SWE. The SWE does not say all future are equal. It says that all future are realized, but some have negligible probability, and this left room for genuine free-will. For example I can choose the stairs, the lift or the windows to go outside, but only with the stairs and lift can I stay in relatively normal worlds. By going outside by jumping through the windows, I take the risk of surviving in a white rabbit world and then to remain in the relatively normal world with respect to that not normal world. This is why I think quantum immortality is a form of terrifying thinking ... if you think twice and take it seriously. Of course reality (with or without QM or comp) is more complex in any case, so it is much plausibly premature to panic from so theoretical elaborations. Actually computer science predicts possible unexpectable jump ... Is it worth exploring the possible comp-hell, to search the limit of the "unbearable"? Well, news indicate humans have some incline to point on such direction. That could be the price of "free-will". Have you read the delicious texts by Smullyan (in Mind'sI I think) about the guy who asks God to take away his free-will (and its associated guilt feeling) ? Bruno http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---

