COMP is the attempt to solve the mind-body problem with basing everything on computations. But then one 3-thing remains uncomputable, and undefined, namely the very foundation of computations. We can define computations in terms of numbers relations, and we can define number relations in terms of +,*,N. But what is N? It is 0 and all it's successors. But what is 0? What are successors? They have to remain undefined. If we define 0 as a natural number, natural number remains undefined. If we define 0 as having no successor, successor remains undefined.
But if the very foundation is undefined, it can mean anything, and anything derived from it can mean anything. One might argue that even though 0 and successor can not be defined it is a specific thing that has a specific meaning. But really, it doesn't. 0 just signifies the absence of something, which makes sense if we count things, but as a foundation for a TOE, it is just meaningless (absence of anything at all?), or could mean anything (the absence of anything in particular). Successor signifies that there is "one more" of something, which makes sense with concrete object, but what is one more of the "absence of something" (which could mean anything). So even if we assume that COMP is correct, it is essentially empty, because it's very foundation is undefined. Everything derived from it also is undefined, that is, it is totally open to interpretation. We can just name the "undefinedness" of 0 as "matter" or "consciousness", and there we have the very same mystery we wanted to explain. Every computation could manifest itself in arbitrary ways... COMP itself says that actual 1-experience is related to an "infinity" of computations. That's even worse, so we have an infinity of undefined computations. Every computation (or infinite computations) can correspond to every (or none) experience, that is, ultimately COMP says nothing about experience. If it would, it had to give a mapping of computation (/infinite computations) to experiences... But since experience is ultimately not divisible in chunks of concrete, seperate experiences, this attempt is bound to fail. The only thing that COMP does is to propose a complicated thought construct which essentially reveals its own emptiness. What can COMP possibly mean? For it to have any use we have to make a bet grounded on pure faith... So we could just as well believe in God, or - better -just take the stance of observing whatever happens! Maybe that we have to bet on an substitution level for COMP to have any meaning, and our inability to know any substitution level should lead us to conclude that there probably is no substitution level, or it is undefined, which would just make sense, given that apparently COMP is undefined in its very foundations. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/COMP-is-empty%28-%29-tp32569717p32569717.html Sent from the Everything List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
