Evgeniy: Hawkins may require "cause and effect" we just don't know "how many" of those are working? We select in our known model the most likely initiating "cause" while many others may act from the still unknown/unknowable infinite 'complexity' background "out there" (and "in here") as well, some with more likelihood (efficiency?) than the "one(s)" we know of. Whatever "happens" is entailed (maybe caused, facilitated) or a retarding (adverse) circumstance has been eliminated (in cases of otherwise naturally occurring events). We may know SOME of the 'causes', not all. (My agnostic slip showing). JM
On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi <use...@rudnyi.ru> wrote: > On 17.06.2012 17:15 John Clark said the following: > >> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi<use...@rudnyi.ru> >> wrote: >> >> For me personally, it is a puzzle why modern physics still needs >>> that every event has a cause. >>> >> >> >> I don't know what you're talking about. Modern physics does not say >> every event has a cause, in fact it says the exact opposite. >> > > But then why to talk that every event has a cause? I believe that in > discussion on free will this is mentioned pretty often. Why not to forget > about this? > > By the way, I believe that in Grand Design, Hawkins is talking about cause > and effect. > > Evgenii > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to > everything-list@googlegroups.**com<email@example.com> > . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscribe@ > **googlegroups.com <everything-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** > group/everything-list?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en> > . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.