"Real" is sense modalities comparing each other. There is no real, only 
'more real than'. One brief moment of significance can be more real than an 
entire lifetime of sleepwalking through life.

On Monday, September 24, 2012 7:59:51 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote:
> Hi   
> Somebody on this list asked whether I thought the physical world 
> to be real while the nonphysical isn't, but my email program seems to 
> have eaten his email.   
> The answer is that it all depends on how you look at the world. 
> Idealists believe that only ideas are real, while the material world is 
> phenomenal. Not a delusion. Plato, Leibniz and Kant belonged to this 
> faction. 
> The reason given by Leibniz is that Ideal world is given 
> by an infinite number of persistent although changing point ideas 
> called monads. Monads can change, but cannot either 
> be created or destroyed. But at the root of the physical 
> world you have quantum uncertainty such as Heisenberg showed, 
> which made Leibniz believe that only the monads are real. 
> By real he meant persistent. 
> Roger Clough, rcl...@verizon.net <javascript:> 
> 9/24/2012   
> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen 

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