2012/11/10 Alberto G. Corona <agocor...@gmail.com> > I always emphasize that there is a evolutionary logic, which unlike any > other logic, is tautological, that is assume no axioms beyond natural > selection (which is tautological per se) > > I will define here this logic as clear as I can. > > Therefore evolutionary logic a good foundation for an absolute notion of > both truth (including existence) and morals. Because is-ougth is unified > under this logic. This logic is rougly speaking convergent with the > classical philosophical-religious logic of common sense. Besides being > materialistic, it debunk the humean nominalist-positivist reductionsisms > and, as i said, return back to the classical philosophical notions. > > Really all the modal logics are parts of this evolutionary logic. The > directions of the arrows of the modal logics have a clear evolutionary > background. for example G x -> x, Ox ->x,  x -> x, Bx -> x, there is a > evolutionary reason behind > > What is this evolutionary logic? > > Under evolutionary logic, truth, existence and goodness becomes > different aspects of the same essence, which have different names when seen > from the point of view of logic, epistemology or morals. > > The truth of this logic is by definition equal to > the-continuation-of-the-mind-in-the-world. > The non sequitur, the definition of false, is the non-continuation-of-the > mind-in-the-world. > Everything that contributes to the continuation of the mind is true, exist > and is good. Everything that does not contribute does not exist, is false > and is evil. > > If a notion contributes to the mind dead, this notion is, evidently non > existent (is disappearing or will disappear soon). It is false (non- > sequitur). And it is not good (contributes to the death of the holder and > his society) > > Therefore It is a fuzzy logic which assign various degrees of truth, > existence and godness depending on the degree, immediacy and clarity with > which something contributes to the persistence of the mind. > > There immediate evident, and universally consensuated concepts that are > truth, exist and are good: For example, that persons are males and females, > the existence of persons, to preserve persons lifes.These sentences are > respectively true, exist and is morally good because the knowledge included > in these statements contribute inmediately and universaly to the > persistence of the human minds in a social environment. > > In the other extreme of fuzziness are more subtle and long term facts > that does not produce an inmediate persistence of the mind, but are long > term,and in some circumstances The existence of the electron, the > existence of God, drug prohibition, the platonic realm etc. > > The accumulation of knowledge of evolutionary truths happens by many > mechanism: biological darwinism, that develop specific circuirtry to > recognize humans, recognize human faces, handle social reasoning (This > instantiates in brain hardware the above statements about persons). There > are also social mechanisms of accumulation of evolutionary knowledge, by > tradition, philosophical, scientific debates, and also violent > confrontation. among peoples and countries. The reason why Lamarkism is > not true is more a factual consequence of the defeat of the USSR than a > direct consequence of scientific debate. It may be said that lisenko > Lamarkism was disastrous because ti contributed to the defeat of the > USSR. But had the USSR won the cold war, we would accept the scientific > truth of lamarkism, since socialism would have been sucessful and > lamarkism is the only coherent evolutionary theory compatible with marxism, > and darwinism is not. It would be far more painful and long term to > convince people to get rid of it . > > All these processes are instances of a single process operating at > differente levels: Natural selection. the proces of variation and > selection at the biological, social political etc levels. > > Althougn this is formulated in crude materialistic terms, This is > identical to the classical philosophical and religious logic, that takes > into account the reality of the whole experience of existence of the > mind-soul in the word in all the dimensions: social and individual. You > may find Biblical and Philosophical texts that assimilate truth, existence > and the good. > > > > 2012/11/10 Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> > >> >> >> Is/ought and modal logic >> >> 1) Hume's universe >> >> The skeptic Hume said that there is the world of is, which we live in, >> and the world of the moralists and religious folk, the world >> as it ought to be, and there was not logical connection between them. >> >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> A speculation >> >> The hierarchical "ladder" of modal logic below suggests that there may in >> fact >> be some sort of logical connection through this hierarchy or >> ontology of logical types possibly rearranged in some ascending way >> from the following list of types: >> >> http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/logic-modal/ >> >> >> Modal Logic >>  It is necessary that .. >> <> It is possible that ? >> >> Deontic Logic >> O It is obligatory that ? >> P It is permitted that ? >> F It is forbidden that ? >> >> Temporal Logic >> G It will always be the case that ? >> F It will be the case that ? >> H It has always been the case that ? >> P It was the case that ? >> >> Doxastic Logic Bx x believes that ? >> >> ======================================================== >> 2) A platonist would see things quite differently: >> >> Platonia, the world of reason and necessity and perfect, >> would be more real than the dark caves we live in down here. >> So platonists would say that platonia reality, the true world, >> the world of being of "is" >> >> The world down here is referred to by Leibniz as >> the world of contingency. Scientists view this >> as the actual world, so to them it would be the >> world as it is. But a platonist wojuld see the world >> down here--in the darkness of plato's cave-- as >> the world as it ought NOT to be. >> >> -------------------------------------------------------- >> This all obviously needs to be better sorted out, >> but I thought I might just send it out now for comments. >> >> >> Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net >> 11/9/2012 >> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. >> >> > > > -- > Alberto. > -- Alberto. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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