Roger, That sounds to me as though it is something you made up. Richard On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote: > Stephen, > > Perhaps my response to Richard, immediately below, > would explain better to you why I believe a supreme monad > (a CPU) is needed. > > ----- Have received the following content ----- > Sender: Roger Clough > Receiver: everything-list > Time: 2012-12-08, 07:24:56 > Subject: Re: Re: WHOOPS! The Supreme Monad (God) is necessary after all.. > > Hi Richard Ruquist > > That's understandable because of L's terminology. > > The individual "perceptions" are continually updated by the supreme monad, > which is necessary so that all the "perceptions" of all > of the monads are properly synchronized. > > The anology would be that a CPU is needed to synchronize > all of the operations and data of the subprograms. > > Stephen doesn't see such a need. > > [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] > 12/8/2012 > "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen > > > ----- Receiving the following content ----- > From: Richard Ruquist > Receiver: everything-list > Time: 2012-12-06, 12:32:51 > Subject: Re: WHOOPS! The Supreme Monad (God) is necessary after all.. > > Roger. How can L's monads be blind if they all have perception as > clearly expressed in L's Monadology? > Richard > > On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote: >> >> WHOOPS! >> >> My "equivalence" or "as if" princple accepting materialism/atheism >> is wrong for the following reason. >> >> The Supreme monad (God) is absolutely needed, because >> without a supreme monad, the monads are blind and don't work >> properly. The Supreme Monad has a necessary, irreplaceable function, >> that of reflecting the perceptions of all of the other monads in >> the universe back to a given monad that guides his changes. >> >> So I have to take back my acceptance of materialism/atheism. >> >> >> >> >> [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] >> 12/6/2012 >> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen >> >> ----- Receiving the following content ----- >> From: Roger Clough >> Receiver: Roger Clough >> Time: 2012-12-06, 09:12:38 >> Subject: Puppets and strings >> >> >> >> Perhaps a simple analogy might make my thinking plainer. >> >> L sees the world and its beings as acting like puppets with strings. >> Atheism/materialism sees the world "as if" there are no strings. >> >> A similar analogy applies to religion. It all depends on how >> you look at the world. >> >> >> >> [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] >> 12/6/2012 >> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen >> >> ----- Receiving the following content ----- >> From: Roger Clough >> Receiver: everything-list >> Time: 2012-12-06, 09:00:01 >> Subject: A truce: if atheism/materialism is an "as if" universe >> >> >> Hi Stephen P. King >> >> OK, after thinking it over, it seems there's two ways of thinking >> about L's metaphysics. >> >> 1) (My way) The Idealist way, that being L's metaphysics as is. >> >> 2) (Your way) The atheist/materialist way, that being the usual >> atheist/materialistc view of the universe --- as long as you >> realize that strictly speaking this is not correct, but the universe >> acts "as if" there's no God. I have trouble with this view >> in speaking of "mental space", but I suppose you can >> consider mental states to exist "as if" they are real. >> L's metaphysics has no conflicts with the phenomenol >> world (the physical world you see and that of science), >> but L would say that strictly speaking, the phenomenol world is >> not real, only its monadic representation is real. >> >> I have not yet worked Bruno's view into this scheme, but >> a first guess is that Bruno's world is 2). >> >> >> [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] >> 12/6/2012 >> "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen >> >> ----- Receiving the following content ----- >> From: Stephen P. King >> Receiver: everything-list >> Time: 2012-12-05, 19:51:28 >> Subject: Re: a paper on Leibnizian mathematical ideas >> >> >> On 12/5/2012 1:01 PM, Richard Ruquist wrote: >> >> L's monads have perception. >> They sense the entire universe. >> >> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Roger Clough wrote: >> >>> Hi Stephen P. King >>> >>> >>> God isn't artificially inserted into L's metaphysics, >>> it's a necessary part, because everything else (the monads) >>> afre blind and passive. Just as necessary as the One is to Plato's >>> metaphysics. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Hi Richard, >> >> Yes, the monads have an entire universe as its perception. What >> distinguishes monads from each other is their 'point of view' of a universe. >> One has to consider the idea of closure for a monad, my conjecture is that >> the content of perception of a monad must be representable as an complete >> atomic Boolean algebra. >> >> >> -- >> Onward! >> >> Stephen >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
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