On 1/27/2013 2:14 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:

On Sunday, January 27, 2013 12:34:37 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote:

        What I really what to know is: what motivates the need to find

What motivates the need to deny oppression?

''*Oppression*is the exercise of authority or power in a burdensome, cruel, or unjust manner.^[1] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oppression#cite_note-1> It can also be defined as an act or instance of oppressing, the state of being oppressed, and the feeling of being heavily burdened, mentally or physically, by troubles, adverse conditions, and anxiety."

My argument is that the entire idea of oppresion is flawed unless there is a clear and objective means to show the metrics that is used. What defines "burdensome", "cruelty", "unjust"? All subjective eye-of-the-beholder valuations. Oppression cannot be objectively defined, as I previously pointed out how one could claim a state of oppression and there is no way to measurable show that the oppression does not exist - it is impossible to prove a negative. Oppression now become a means to oppress itself, to pit one group against another.

So I ask, what is the motivation to even consider the idea of oppression if not to inject subjectivity further into relations between humans that already hard enough to figure out? When one can look at the measurable results of policies and find where and when people thrive and where and when they do not, there is no need to even mention the word oppression or injustice. When evaluating policies, does it not only matter that the results are beneficial by some agreeable measure so that we can cast aside all subjective aspects? We can see in history that collectivist policies have almost uniformly caused harm (measureable in the numbers of people in mass graves), so why do they keep being tried?



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