2013/1/30 Stephen P. King <[email protected]>

>  On 1/30/2013 12:06 AM, Kim Jones wrote:
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> "we do WHOSE will"???
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> I mean, what if God turns out to be a gigantic chicken or the Michelin Man?
>
> Are we still happy with our chosen values?
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> K
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>     Hard for Gozer the Gozerian <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gozer#Gozer>to 
> be infinite, eternal, Omnisient, Omnipresent and Omnipotent.... Kim,
> this is a bad straw man... why are you writing it?
>
>
And why the Michelin man coudn't be infinite, eternal, Omnisient,
Omnipresent and Omnipotent... Have you some proof of that ? Because the *Flying
Spaghetti Monster is... *or so I've been told.

Quentin


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>  On 30/01/2013, at 4:01 PM, "Stephen P. King" <[email protected]> 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
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>  On 1/29/2013 11:13 PM, Kim Jones wrote:
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>  This is a pretty well-worn, oft-used, school prayer. Given it is recited or 
> sung by the entire student body and staff at a good many schools and other 
> institutions you would have to assume that it's all fundamentally good stuff.
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>
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> Teach us, good Lord, to serve thee as thou deserves;
> to give and not to count the cost;
> to fight and not to heed the wounds;
> to till, and not to seek for rest;
> to labour, and not to ask for any reward,
> save that of knowing we do thy will.
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>
> Amen.
>
>
> But it's all incredibly bad advice, really - don't you think? Why do people 
> assume God wants Earthlings to be such a bunch of try-hards?
> I hate this prayer. It advertises values that no one can live up to and no 
> one need live up to. Surely we can invent a better, less servile, less 
> obsequious, less cringing, less Gollum-like take on what we think God wants 
> for us.
>
> All this servility, this grovelling at the feet of somebody. Is God really 
> into all that? I don't believe it.
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>
> Kim Jones
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>     Saint Ignatius' prayer, no? Common for those in Jesuit schools. I never 
> hear it in my days of Christian school... Many people live well with such 
> ideas in their heads, why the licentious talk of them?
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> Stephen
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