On 12 Apr 2013, at 03:04, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:

On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com> wrote:
Hi John,

http://www.nature.com/news/2006/060410/full/news060410-2.html

"Nelson doesn't rule out the possibility that other psychological or
spiritual factors may also play a role. "I'm interested in how this
experience is generated. That's as far as I take it," says Nelson. As
to the ultimate meaning of these experiences, he will leave that
question for others to answer."

This succint report, by the way, describes a less rigorous experience
than the one described in PLoS and is a bit less cautious in the final
paragraph than the PLoS one. Who would have thunk?

I don't like bets, by the way. I'd feel bed about losing money and I'd
feel bad about taking your money. Believe it or not.

Full disclosure: I had what could be considered a NDE once. Nothing
supernatural about it, no lights, nothing flashing before my eyes.

A friend of mine was giving me a ride home late at night and the car
lost control on a tight curve. We had a frontal collision against a
car on the opposite lane. Thankfully we wer both driving slow so the
airbags saved everybody. I lost consciousness (maybe :) for 30 secs
and woke to a strong smell of sulphur -- I imagine from the
pyrotechnics that inflate the airbags. And a sore neck.

The interesting part is the second before the collision. I was 100%
sure I was going to die. I did not panik nor did I feel sadness or
fear. I felt a calm realisation: "oh, so this is how I die". It was
extremely peaceful and a bit psychedelic, in that everything felt like
a big cosmic joke. Not a "haha funny" joke, but a joke nevertheless.

This has no scientific value, of course. It was an interesting 1p
experience that changed my outlook on death for the best. I now
consider it a strongly positive experience in my life because I fear
death less. I still fear suffering though. I hope my real death turns
out to be something of that sort.

Note that studying NDE's does not imply that the researchers believe
they represent glimpses of God or heaven, any more than studying
schizophrenia means the researchers believes the patient's delusions.

But such study would not make necessary the NDE into a delusion, no more than some possible understanding of Einstein's brain would make relativity theory delusional a priori.

Bruno





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