On Friday, April 19, 2013 4:26:02 AM UTC-4, Alberto G.Corona wrote: > > Craig, > > Have you discussed about this? It seems that it is in your line of though: > > http://kwelos.tripod.com/anthropism.htm > > http://biocentricity.net/ >
Thanks Alberto, I don't think that I've talked about biocentricity here but I am familiar with it. http://multisenserealism.com/2012/08/02/critique-of-lanzas-biocentricism-principles/ Hadn't heard of the Participatory Antrhopic Principle before, but Wheeler's theories have come up several times as seeming similar to my own. Where both of them overlap is in the assumption that inorganic matter does not represent a participatory experience, which I think is true locally but not absolutely. From our frame of reference, inorganic matter exists in frame of reference that is both so large and slow and so small and fast, in which the aesthetic divide between choice and chance is so indiscernible, that indeed it has no significance to our own experience. It cannot matter to us what matter feels, only what it does. So yes, without this understanding about perceptual relativity and how aesthetic qualites are bled out in unfamiliar or distant frames of experience, then I could see where it would make sense to elevate biology and participation above the assumed inertness of the background universe, but it is unnecessary when we recognize that foreground-background relations themselves can only emerge from sense, not from nonsense motors. Wheeler's intuition about participation is on the right track, but without the assumption of nonsense motors, there is no need for a primordial unconscious multiverse. Unconsciousness is an idea within biology. The anthropic part is really the fact that biological organisms are presented with this false idea in order to make their own experience seem more significant. Life is defined in large part by the aesthetic of the dread of its absence. It isn't a false idea locally, but from an absolute perspective, there can be no absence of experience - participatory experience is all that can ever be. Craig > -- > Alberto. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.