Roger, we 'read' you too much. If you have to use this silly word (Ccness):
I'm preaching over the past 21 years that it is a PROCESS. As in: RESPONSE
TO RELATIONS.
No Leibnitz or else, no 'subject' or 'object' no fuss.
It is a basic process to the TOTALITY (not human,not fellow DNA-bearers,
not even restrictd to (other) life-creatures).
John Mikes Ph.D., D.Sc.
(I never try to impress with my doctorates).

On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> wrote:

>   For some time, I have been trying to contact you to inform you
> that
>
> consciousness = subject + object
>
> but you people keep trying to solve the problem
>
> consciousness = object.
>
> which is useful to some extent, but is not consciousness.
>
> That's materialism and it's the wrong problem.
>
> Only by using Idealism  (Liebniz, so far as I know, and Kant to some
> extent ) will you ever underestand consciousness.
>
>
>
>  Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000]
> See my Leibniz site at
>  http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough
>
>
>  Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000]
> See my Leibniz site at
>  http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough
>
>  Dr. Roger B Clough NIST (ret.) [1/1/2000]
> See my Leibniz site at
>  http://independent.academia.edu/RogerClough
>
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