On Fri, Sep 6, 2013  <spudboy...@aol.com> wrote:

> Falsifying was a term invented by a philosopher. I forget his name.

Understandable, philosophers are not very memorable. And no philosopher
invented falsifiability, some just made a big deal about something rather
obvious that had already been in use by scientists for centuries; although
way back then they were called Natural Philosophers, a term I wish we still

> Kark Popper! That's it!

There is not a scientist alive that learned to do science by reading Karl
Popper. Popper was just a reporter, he observed how scientists work and
described what he saw. And I don't think Popper was exactly a fount of

In chapter 37 of his 1976 (1976!!) book "Unended Quest: An Intellectual
Autobiography" Popper says:

 "Darwinism is not a testable scientific theory, but a metaphysical
research program".

Those are Popper's own words not mine, and this is not something to make
Popper fans or fans of philosophers of science in general proud.  Finally,
two years later in 1978 at the age of 76 and 119 years after the
publication of "The Origin Of Species", perhaps the greatest scientific
book ever written, Popper belatedly said:

 “I have changed my mind about the testability and logical status of the
theory of natural selection; and I am glad to have an opportunity to make a

Better late than never I guess, he came to the conclusion that this Darwin
whippersnapper might be on to something after all in his 1978 (1978!!)
lecture "Natural Selection and the Emergence of Mind".

> On free will, I simply say that free will is knowing what you love or
> hate.

In a previous post I said "a particular set of likes and dislikes that in
the English language is called "will". "Will" is not the problem, it's
"free will" that's gibberish".

> Free will doesn't seem to mean, in control of events.

Free will doesn't seem to mean anything, not one damn thing; but a little
thing like not knowing what the hell "free will" is supposed to be never
prevents philosophers passionately arguing if humans have it or not.
Apparently the philosophers on this list have decided to first determine if
humans have free will or not and only when that question has been entirely
settled will they go on and try to figure out what on earth they were
talking about.

  John K Clark

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