On 30 Nov 2013, at 12:27, Roger Clough wrote:
Berkeley and Leibniz- where the monads came from
In Berkeley's philosophy of idealism, a subject is needed
to perceive objects, otherwise they could not exist.
Leibniz got around the problem of what happens if
nobody's there (a tree falls in a wood...)
by dividing up the world into physical objects
That's Leibniz main mistake (seen in the computationalist theory).
and
assigning a subject (a monad) to each object.
That would lead to animism. And pantheism. I don't think it makes
sense with comp, which will associate a mind only to something whose
complexity threshold is beyond some (low) level (the turing universal
level). And then the 1p is distributed on a non computable part of a
computable domain.
A clock is plausibly not conscious. As it is not Turing universal in
any interesting non trivial sense.
I conjectured that a quantum clock could be Turing universal, but Eric
Vandenbussche refuted it (and found, in doing so, astonishingly, a
new proof that the sum of the inverse of square positive integers is
equal to 1/6 of the square of Pi).
This everything is conscious to some extent.
Otherwise it could not follow the pre-established harmony.
I think the state of harmony is the state of the universal person
before its soul falls by attraction to Matter, where God loses control.
I think the harmony state is given by Plotinus (or comp) three primary
hypostases:
p (the truth, the one)
Bp (the proof/belief, the intelligible)
Bp & p ( the true proof/belief, the universal soul) (B = Gödel's
provability predicate, and p is an arbitrary arithmetical sigma_1
sentence.)
And disharmony is brought by the machine's ability to conceive, or
better: its inability to not conceive the material secondary hypostases:
Bp & Dt
Bp & Dt & p (it is here that it hurts and the dream can become a
nightmare, normally)
But also many others B^n p & D^m t (& p), with n < m. (they all gives
an arithmetical quantizations, and the quantization seems to be graded).
Matter is the border of the universal mind of the universal person
that the universal (Turing) machine can't avoid to bet on when looking
inward and intuiting the gap between proofs and truth.
This entails two processes: the emanation of God into Souls and
Matter, and the conversion of the Souls, using Matter to come back to
God (which is a sort of universal soul attractor).
Bruno
http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
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