On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected]>wrote:

> On 21 January 2014 00:01, Edgar L. Owen <[email protected]> wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > I almost hesitate to post this. It's obvious nonsense but a good example
> of
> > how science can be wildly misinterpeted. But on the other hand some
> people
> > on this group will no doubt take it seriously since it is compatible with
> > some of the other MWI fantasies advocated here. Will be interesting to
> see
> > how the discussion goes! Edgar
> >
> >
> >
> > Beyond time and space
> > Lanza is an expert in regenerative medicine and scientific director of
> > Advanced Cell Technology Company. Before he has been known for his
> > extensive research which dealt with stem cells, he was also famous for
> > several successful experiments on cloning endangered animal species.
> >
> > But not so long ago, the scientist became involved with physics,
> > quantum mechanics and astrophysics. This explosive mixture has given
> > birth to the new theory of biocentrism, which the professor has been
> > preaching ever since.  Biocentrism teaches that life and consciousness
> > are fundamental to the universe.  It is consciousness that creates the
> > material universe, not the other way around.
> >
> > Lanza points to the structure of the universe itself, and that the
> > laws, forces, and constants of the universe appear to be fine-tuned
> > for life, implying intelligence existed prior to matter.  He also
> > claims that space and time are not objects or things, but rather tools
> > of our animal understanding.  Lanza says that we carry space and time
> > around with us “like turtles with shells.” meaning that when the shell
> > comes off (space and time), we still exist.
> >
> > The theory implies that death of consciousness simply does not exist.
> > It only exists as a thought because people identify themselves with
> > their body. They believe that the body is going to perish, sooner or
> > later, thinking their consciousness will disappear too.  If the body
> > generates consciousness, then consciousness dies when the body dies.
> > But if the body receives consciousness in the same way that a cable
> > box receives satellite signals, then of course consciousness does not
> > end at the death of the physical vehicle. In fact, consciousness
> > exists outside of constraints of time and space. It is able to be
> > anywhere: in the human body and outside of it. In other words, it is
> > non-local in the same sense that quantum objects are non-local.
> >
> > Lanza also believes that multiple universes can exist simultaneously.
> > In one universe, the body can be dead. And in another it continues to
> > exist, absorbing consciousness which migrated into this universe.
> > This means that a dead person while traveling through the same tunnel
> > ends up not in hell or in heaven, but in a similar world he or she
> > once inhabited, but this time alive. And so on, infinitely.  It’s
> > almost like a cosmic Russian doll afterlife effect.
> >
> > Multiple worlds
> > This hope-instilling, but extremely controversial theory by Lanza has
> > many unwitting supporters, not just mere mortals who want to live
> > forever, but also some well-known scientists. These are the physicists
> > and astrophysicists who tend to agree with existence of parallel
> > worlds and who suggest the possibility of multiple universes.
> > Multiverse (multi-universe) is a so-called scientific concept, which
> > they defend. They believe that no physical laws exist which would
> > prohibit the existence of parallel worlds.
> >
> > The first one was a science fiction writer H.G. Wells who proclaimed
> > in 1895 in his story “The Door in the Wall”.  And after 62 years, this
> > idea was developed by Dr. Hugh Everett in his graduate thesis at the
> > Princeton University. It basically posits that at any given moment the
> > universe divides into countless similar instances. And the next
> > moment, these “newborn” universes split in a similar fashion. In some
> > of these worlds you may be present: reading this article in one
> > universe, or watching TV in another.
> >
> > The triggering factor for these multiplyingworlds is our actions,
> > explained Everett. If we make some choices, instantly one universe
> > splits into two with different versions of outcomes.
> >
> > In the 1980s, Andrei Linde, scientist from the Lebedev’s Institute of
> > physics, developed the theory of multiple universes. He is now a
> > professor at Stanford University.  Linde explained: Space consists of
> > many inflating spheres, which give rise to similar spheres, and those,
> > in turn, produce spheres in even greater numbers, and so on to
> > infinity. In the universe, they are spaced apart. They are not aware
> > of each other’s existence. But they represent parts of the same
> > physical universe.
> >
> > The fact that our universe is not alone is supported by data received
> > from the Planck space telescope. Using the data, scientists have
> > created the most accurate map of the microwave background, the
> > so-called cosmic relic background radiation, which has remained since
> > the inception of our universe. They also found that the universe has a
> > lot of dark recesses represented by some holes and extensive gaps.
> >
> > Theoretical physicist Laura Mersini-Houghton from the North Carolina
> > University with her colleagues argue: the anomalies of the microwave
> > background exist due to the fact that our universe is influenced by
> > other universes existing nearby. And holes and gaps are a direct
> > result of attacks on us by neighboring universes.
> >
> > Soul
> > So, there is abundance of places or other universes where our soul
> > could migrate after death, according to the theory of neo-biocentrism.
> > But does the soul exist?  Is there any scientific theory of
> > consciousness that could accommodate such a claim?  According to Dr.
> > Stuart Hameroff, a near-death experience happens when the quantum
> > information that inhabits the nervous system leaves the body and
> > dissipates into the universe.  Contrary to materialistic accounts of
> > consciousness, Dr. Hameroff offers an alternative explanation of
> > consciousness that can perhaps appeal to both the rational scientific
> > mind and personal intuitions.
> >
> > Consciousness resides, according to Stuart and British physicist Sir
> > Roger Penrose, in the microtubules of the brain cells, which are the
> > primary sites of quantum processing.  Upon death, this information is
> > released from your body, meaning that your consciousness goes with it.
> > They have argued that our experience of consciousness is the result of
> > quantum gravity effects in these microtubules, a theory which they
> > dubbed orchestrated objective reduction (Orch-OR).
> >
> > Consciousness, or at least proto-consciousness is theorized by them to
> > be a fundamental property of the universe, present even at the first
> > moment of the universe during the Big Bang. “In one such scheme
> > proto-conscious experience is a basic property of physical reality
> > accessible to a quantum process associated with brain activity.”
> >
> > Our souls are in fact constructed from the very fabric of the universe
> > – and may have existed since the beginning of time.  Our brains are
> > just receivers and amplifiers for the proto-consciousness that is
> > intrinsic to the fabric of space-time. So is there really a part of
> > your consciousness that is non-material and will live on after the
> > death of your physical body?
> >
> > Dr Hameroff told the Science Channel’s Through the Wormhole
> > documentary: “Let’s say the heart stops beating, the blood stops
> > flowing, the microtubules lose their quantum state. The quantum
> > information within the microtubules is not destroyed, it can’t be
> > destroyed, it just distributes and dissipates to the universe at
> > large”.  Robert Lanza would add here that not only does it exist in
> > the universe, it exists perhaps in another universe.
> >
> > If the patient is resuscitated, revived, this quantum information can
> > go back into the microtubules and the patient says “I had a near death
> > experience”‘
> >
> > He adds: “If they’re not revived, and the patient dies, it’s possible
> > that this quantum information can exist outside the body, perhaps
> > indefinitely, as a soul.”
> >
> > This account of quantum consciousness explains things like near-death
> > experiences, astral projection, out of body experiences, and even
> > reincarnation without needing to appeal to religious ideology.  The
> > energy of your consciousness potentially gets recycled back into a
> > different body at some point, and in the mean time it exists outside
> > of the physical body on some other level of reality, and possibly in
> > another universe.
>
> Lanza's theory bears only a superficial resemblance to multiverse
> theories. At its simplest, a multiverse theory says that there are
> multiple copies of you having your current thought, and if one of
> these copies suddenly stops, you live on in the others. This does not
> require the existence of a soul that flies from one body to the other,
> as Lanza implies. It also doesn't require any explicit theory of
> consciousness.It is just a consequence of the fact that you, now,
> consider yourself a continuation of you, yesterday, even though the
> matter in your body is different and in a different configuration.
>
>
>

I half seriously refer to the combination of MWI and Lanza's theory as MMWI.

MMWI: A heirarchy of meta-worlds (metaphysical worlds),(e.g., astral,
mental, causal, buddhic,...)
accompany a multiverse base-plane of effectively infinite physical MWI
quantum states.
Richard

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