Ah, right now I understand your point.

If the mathematical multiverse hipothesis is correct, in a certain
way, not even today there is time neither init neither end. time is an
observation made by living beings inside. We live in a mathematical
equation that has no such thing as time when looked from outside (the
"bird view" according with Max Tegmark). But our inside view is
temporal and we extrapolate other spatio-temporal locations of the
universe in a timeful way. A circle has no time neither have the M
theory that is supposed to be isomorphic with our universe. (if
mathematical existence is true).  But to be observable, with living
beings inside, a mathematical structure  must have a gradient of
entropy, among other things (and that is what I present in the link).
The direction of that gradient is observed as time. The location of
the minimum entropy is called "beginning" by such living beings, but
that is only the inside view.

Look for example the parabolic trajectory of a cannon ball. For the
mathematician, the trajectory is a timeless equation of the height as
a function of the length, with the angle, gravitation constant etc as
parameters.  For other observer, inside the ball that don“t know that
equation, he only observe that he has a velocity and direction, and
that the earth attract it with a certain acceleration. he deduces a
differential equation with time as parameter to know where he will be
at each moment.

2014/1/23, LizR <[email protected]>:
> On 23 January 2014 06:38, Edgar L. Owen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Alberto,
>>
>> This is total nonsense. It assumes the universe did not evolve for 13.4
>> billion years until life came along.
>>
>
> More like 10 billion years, but same point.
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