On 1 February 2014 13:22, Craig Weinberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Friday, January 31, 2014 5:32:49 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
>
>> It emerges along the time axis. Evolution, for example, can operate in a
>> block universe. All the phenomena we experience can occur in a block
>> universe, otherwise no one would entertain the possibility that we live in
>> one.
>>
>
> I don't think that very many people do seriously entertain the possibility
> that we live in a block universe.
>

Except physicists, who have accepted it since Minkowski, if not Newton.
(And science fiction writers, like Robert Heinlein.)

It's not that the effect of evolution couldn't exist in a block universe,
> its that it wouldn't make sense to say that it 'operates', since the
> beginning and ending of the operation would be, from an absolute
> perspective, simultaneous.
>

No they wouldn't, they'd be separated by hundreds of millions of years
along the time axis.


> What is not explained is why, if there was a block universe, would being
> inside of it be filled with both simultaneous and chronological sensations.
> What would restrict some part of the block to the point of blindness to
> most of the time axis, and then insert some kind of illusion of timing
> associated with that axis?
>

Physics.

>
>
>> The fact that it is "all there" from the god's (physicist's) perspective
>> doesn't stop things changing and emerging within the block.
>>
>
> It doesn't stop it, but it makes it implausible. What does a block want
> with "_ing" anything?
>

It doesn't want anything. It's just the outcome of the laws of physics.


> But there *is* time in a block universe. It's a 4D manifold, and time is
>> a particular axis within it. You seem to want an extra time above and
>> beyond the existing one.
>>
>
> Just the opposite. I am fully embracing time a just one of the four D
> axes. What the block universe does not explain is why that axis is
> presented as a verb while the other three are not, and why that axis is
> irreversible seeming while the others are not.
>
>
We're embedded in time, and the thermodynamic arrow of time is a subject
that has already been discussed at length.

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