Jesse, The fact that the entire universe from start to finish including every even that ever happened and will happen actually somehow exists doesn't imply a creation event??????
Come on now Jesse. Let's get real here. Of course I make some basic assumptions such as an original fine tuning. A few googles of orders simpler if I may say so! And I suspect Occam would agree.... Edgar On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 6:06:20 PM UTC-5, jessem wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Edgar L. Owen <[email protected]<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> Jesse, >> >> This is just outrageously wrong. Block time implies the most magical >> mystical miraculous creation event of all times, of the entire universe >> from beginning to end, a creation event that makes the Biblical creation >> event look completely reasonable by comparison. >> >> That is the exact OPPOSITE of Occam's razor because it is the most >> complex creation event possible to imagine.... >> > > > It doesn't imply spacetime was the result of a "creation" event, any more > than the Mandelbrot set was a result of a "creation" event (the Mandelbrot > set also appears quite complex, although its information content is very > small, as might be true of the multiverse). Of course, this may not be a > convincing analogy to you since from earlier posts I gather you think that > mathematical truths like 2+2=4 emerge in time and weren't true before they > were "computed" (at what point in time did the mathematical rules governing > computation arise?), but it works for mathematical platonists like me. > > Jesse > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

