Russell, Obviously if clock time is part of the block universe then there can't be a creation event IN clock time since it didn't exist 'prior' to the block universe.
My take in my book is simply that existence has always existed because non-existence cannot exist. In that view the big bang was an actualization event from an always extant generalized quantum vacuum. Only at the big bang did clock time and dimensional space like all other measurable forms come into existence and began to be computed and clock time began to flow. However existence always had to exist, and that means it must be real and actual and present and that presence is the source of the present moment in which the big bang occurred, and in which the universe continues to compute its current state even now. Edgar On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 7:02:58 PM UTC-5, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 05, 2014 at 03:31:30PM -0800, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > Jesse, > > > > The fact that the entire universe from start to finish including every > even > > that ever happened and will happen actually somehow exists doesn't imply > a > > creation event?????? > > > > Come on now Jesse. Let's get real here. > > Yes, let's get real. A block universe does not imply a creation event, > just as the platonic existence of the Mandelbrot set does not entail a > creation event of that set. > > If the block universe has a boundary on the time axis, then one can point > to that boundary as a creation event, but the BU could be an open set > along the time axis (for every point in the BU, there exist points > lying earlier along the time axis), in which case no such creation > event is required, even if the BU is finite. Hawking even gave a > plausible mechanism for this in the form of "imaginary time". > > > -- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > Principal, High Performance Coders > Visiting Professor of Mathematics [email protected]<javascript:> > University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
