On 12 February 2014 05:18, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > On 11 Feb 2014, at 03:57, LizR wrote: > > On 11 February 2014 15:22, Hal Ruhl <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Liz: >> >> I am not sure I understand your comment. >> As to "rate" I posit a positive feedback loop in the life system that >> forces "natural" ecocide that also makes the rate at which life approaches >> it accelerate. >> There is always a chance that an essentially "outside" originating >> influence could terminate the "natural" extinction process with an >> "unnatural" one [cometary impact, etc.]. >> By "natural" here I mean inherent in life itself. "Unnatural" would be >> external to life. [I suppose that these distinctions may have permeable >> boundaries.] >> In any event my point is that my argument supports a "natural" and thus >> unavoidable extinction event built into life and it is fully effective >> absent an "unnatural" earlier one. >> >> I still don't think we should be killing off all the species we are, if > only for our own sake. I think we benefit from biodiversity, probably even > more so than the next species since we have occupied almost every niche on > the planet apart from deep sea smokers. > > I also don't like the suggestion that ecocide is a "natural and > unavoidable aspect of life" because that appears to be an attempt at > justifying ourselves. > > It is the same error than the lawyer who justified his client's murder by > the fact that it just obeys the laws of physics. It is natural! > It is empty also, in this case, as we can say that the human reaction to > avoid the natural ecocide is natural too, like the jury member can condemm > the murderer to any pain, by justifying them by the fact that they too obey > the physical laws. > > "naturality" add nothing on each sides of the debate. Here nature plays a > role of the "gap", and some others could just say "Oh, that's God will". > I think this has a name: fatalism. >
I guess my instinct to protect my offspring (and their offspring...etc) from the results of the wild party the human race has been throwing since we discovered all this "cool tech stuff" is also natural. (So the hangover won't be too extreme...) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
