On 12 February 2014 15:23, Edgar L. Owen <edgaro...@att.net> wrote:

> Jesse,
>
> Let me clarify my response since I see it's slightly ambiguous.
>
> First every observer in the universe is ALWAYS at the same point in p-time
> ALL the time with all other observers. No exceptions.
>
> The question is what clock times of various observers correspond to a same
> point of p-time?
>
> The answer is that to find out what t of any observer in any relativistic
> frame corresponds to any t' of any other relativistic frame you just pause
> the experiment so that all relativistic effects freeze at that instant.
>
> You seem to be assuming what you want to prove. What does "at that
instant" mean?

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