On 11 Feb 2014, at 17:07, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
All,
In a computational reality everything consists of information in the
computational space of reality/existence, whose presence within it
gives it its reality. By taking place within reality these
computations produce real universe results.
All this information is ultimately quantized into a basic unit I
call an R-bit. Thus all of reality is constructed of different
arrangements of R-bits.
Now the basic insight is that R-bits are actually just numbers,
let's call them R-numbers to distinguish from the H-numbers of human
mathematics which are quite different.
This means that the actual numbers of reality are actually the real
elemental constituents OF reality. Numbers make up reality, and
everything in reality is constructed only of these R-numbers. R-
numbers = R-bits.
This neatly addresses the problem of how there can be abstract
concepts such as number that describe but aren't an actual part of
reality. In this view there can't be, since the actual numbers of
reality are the actual constituents of everything in reality.
As Pythagoros claimed, "all is number", in the realest sense possible.
That begin to looks like comp. But still, by the FPI, the physical
cannot appears to be "made of numbers" (and they are not). Physics is
an inside view.
If you use computational reality in the standard sense, all you need
to postulate is elementary arithmetic, but you have to retrieve both
mind and matter from only the arithmetical relation.
Reading UDA would save a lot of time, if, like here, you seem to agree
with the computationalist hypothesis in the cognitive science.
Now what do these R-numbers look like?
1. Every R-number is exactly the same as every other R-number. They
are fungible or interchangeable. They do not exist in any sequences
such as 1, 2, 3 ... They don't have ordinal or cardinal 'tags'
attached to distinguish them. There are not different numbers, or
different kinds of number. All numbers are exactly the same.
But this looks like nonsense to me. You are using "number" in a non
standard sense, like computation.
What human H-math calls ordinal or cardinal characteristics of
number are not intrinsic to R-numbers themselves, but are
relationships between R-number groups and sets. These concepts are
part of R-math, not characteristics of R-numbers.
2. R-numbers are finite. The universe contains only some finite
number of basic R-bits, and since R-bits are themselves numbers, the
number of numbers in the computational universe is finite. There are
no R-number infinities.
That is ultrafinitism, probably of the physicalist type. Why not, but
there will be difficulties with step 8.
3. The only R-numbers that exist correspond to what human H-math
would try to think of as the non-zero positive integers up to the
finite limit of R-bits in existence. There is no R-number 0, no
negative R-numbers, no fractional or irrational R-numbers. These are
examples of how human H-math generalizes and tries to extend the
basic relational concepts of R-math to H-numbers. It is by making
these kind of extensions and generalizations that H-math diverges
from R-math and thus has real problems in accurately describing
reality.
If comp is true, both physics and consciousness are independent of
such detail.
What does R-math look like?
1. R-math is the actual computations that compute actual reality
that compute the real empirical objective state of the information
universe. H-math, while originally modeled on R-math has greatly
expanded beyond that to enormous complexities which though they
sometimes can accurately describe aspects of reality, do NOT
actually COMPUTE it. R-math is what actually actively COMPUTES
reality, and only what is necessary to do that.
That is magical thinking. You must avoid uses of "real", "reality",
etc. This beg the entire discussion.
2. R-math is probably a rather small set of logico-mathematical
rules, just what is necessary to actually compute reality at the
elemental level.
You will need a universal machine or number, and you can't define what
that means without some infinity, at least at the epistemological level.
It will include active routines such as those that compute the
conservation of the small set of particle properties that make up
all elemental particles, and the rules that govern the binding of
particle properties in atomic and molecular matter.
Where do such particles come from? What are they?
3. Thus R-math consists of the logical operators of the active
routines that actively compute reality, rather than the static
equations and principles of H-math.
So the take away is that :
1. The universe, and everything in it, consists of information only.
What does that mean?
And that information consists only of different arrangements of
elemental R-bits. And these elemental R-bits are the actual numbers
on the basis of which R-math continually computes the current state
of the universe.
That looks like digital physics, which is inconsistent (with or
without comp).
2. Thus everything in the universe is made up of numbers and only
numbers.
Nothing in the physical universe is made of numbers. It is an
appearance in numbers' experience, emerging from a non computable
statistics bearing on infinite collection of computations (in the
standard sense).
Bruno
3. All the things in the universe are just various arrangements and
relationships between these numbers.
4. These are continually being recomputed by all the interactive
programs (all just aspects of a single universal program) that make
up all the processes in the universe.
5. These processes follow fundamental logico-mathematical rules
which are part of what I call the extended fine tuning (the set of
every non-reducible aspect of reality including the rules of logic
it follows). These are analogous to the basic machine operations of
silicon computers.
6. The programs of reality are complex sequences of these elemental
operations acting on R-numbers which are just R-bits. In general
these sequences incorporate standard routines such as the particle
property conservation routine.
The aggregate result is the universe we exist within which consists
entirely of different types of information, a fact which can be
verified by direct objective observation.
Our minds each internally simulate this information universe as the
physical, dimensional universe in which mind tells us we live. These
simulations are a convenient evolutionary illusion that enables us,
as programs within a universe of programs, to more effectively
compute our lives and function more successfully. They enable our
survival as individuals and as a species. That is why they have
evolved, even as they conceal the true underlying information nature
of reality.
Edgar
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