On Sunday, February 16, 2014 2:05:09 PM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 16 Feb 2014, at 18:47, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysa5OBhXz-Q > > A quick video that can shed some light on the inadequacy of bottom-up > models. > > > Nice video, Craig. > > But don't make it into an opportunist argument against comp, as comp > explains why 3p bottom-up models miss the real thing in arithmetic too. > > The machine can already explains this. There is an arithmetical reason why > the arithmetical relations challenge the arithmetical reasons. > > You invent unexplainable "gods" (like your "sense") to decrete that some > 3p being cannot support consciousness, just due to their digital skin. > > Why not being agnostic, especially that you have admitted not having > studied computer science. > > Why being negative on something that you ignore? >
If explanation supervenes on a god, then that god is by definition unexplainable. God supervenes on sense, as do explanation, truth, and arithmetic. I don't ignore computation at all, I show how we can see beyond it and through it to a more genuine, integrated understanding. Craig > > Bruno > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-li...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. > To post to this group, send email to everyth...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> > . > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
