On Sunday, February 16, 2014 2:05:09 PM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 16 Feb 2014, at 18:47, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysa5OBhXz-Q > > A quick video that can shed some light on the inadequacy of bottom-up > models. > > > Nice video, Craig. > > But don't make it into an opportunist argument against comp, as comp > explains why 3p bottom-up models miss the real thing in arithmetic too. > > The machine can already explains this. There is an arithmetical reason why > the arithmetical relations challenge the arithmetical reasons. > > You invent unexplainable "gods" (like your "sense") to decrete that some > 3p being cannot support consciousness, just due to their digital skin. > > Why not being agnostic, especially that you have admitted not having > studied computer science. > > Why being negative on something that you ignore? >
If explanation supervenes on a god, then that god is by definition unexplainable. God supervenes on sense, as do explanation, truth, and arithmetic. I don't ignore computation at all, I show how we can see beyond it and through it to a more genuine, integrated understanding. Craig > > Bruno > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] <javascript:>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]<javascript:> > . > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
