Ah - interesting. Despite being on a short holiday in the Bay of Islands I have TON with me (and "Confederacy of Dunces") so I can check that out.
As far as the evidence not being in favour of what people think, I guess that is because they simply assume objective reality, much as lots of people assume time flows (say) - and then it isn't surprising they end up showing what they've assumed.... excuse me while I go and persue TON. On 19/02/2014, Russell Standish <[email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 12:06:30PM +1300, LizR wrote: >> Surely you need something to synchronise the perceptions of different >> observers? And I assume external physical reality is the simplest >> hypothesis for what that something is? >> >> Not that that ia an argument in its favour, I suppose (doesn't make >> testable predictions different from other ontologies). I can't offhand >> think of an experiment that would definitively show there is an >> external material reality. (Kicking a stone ... which causes some >> virtual photons to be exchanged between particles that may be >> mathematical objects, some sort of Poincare group thing perhaps... and >> is in any case "only" a series of sense impression... etc) >> > > I would agree that an objective external physical reality is the > simplest explanation of the anthropic principle, and that idealist > theories have some catching up to do. This problem is described in > Theory of Nothing (p82, p164, p183). However, such objectivist > ontologies have problems of their own, such as the incompatibility > with COMP that Bruno uncovered. On the whole, idealism tends to fair > better than physicalism over a range of topics, just not in the > particular case of the Anthropic Principle. > > There seems to me to be a big confusion between intersubjectivity and > objectivity in general. Most of the evidence presented in favour of > objectivity is actually evidence in favour of intersubjectivity. The > confusion is probably because as far as evolution is concerned, they > are the one and same. > > -- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > Principal, High Performance Coders > Visiting Professor of Mathematics [email protected] > University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
