On 24 February 2014 07:57, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

> About [](A -> B) -> ([]A -> []B), let me ask you a more precise exercise.
>
>
>> Convince yourself that this formula is true in all worlds, of all Kripke
>> multiverses, with any illumination.
>> Hint: you might try a reductio ad absurdum. try to build a multiverse in
>> which that law would be violated.
>>
>
> [](A -> B) -> ([]A -> []B)
>
> OK. For a disconnected universe this is t -> (t -> t) or t -> t which is
> true.
>
> And for a Leibniz universe, I'm fairly sure this is also true.
>
> So that leaves {alpha R alpha} and {alpha R beta} and .... so on, for any
> number of universes + relations.
>
> Maybe I can come back on this one.
>
>
> Sure. Me too. (I will myself be plausibly slowed down, as I have two weeks
> of teaching, take your time, just try to not forget what you learn, by
> having good summary, that you can read from time to time).
>

Well, does an illuminated Kripke universe effectively act as a Leibniz
universe? If so this is definitely true (OK I try to jump in quickly
here...)

>
> You do good work, but I am not sure if you have good notes. That is not
> grave, but not helpful to you.
>

Yes, I know - about the notes, I mean. (Maybe I just need to search the
list for []p to find some...)


> Never hesitate to ask for any definition or recall.
>
> Thank you, don't worry I will :)


> The modal logic part is not the real thing. The "real thing" will be the
> interview of universal and Löbian machines, and some modal logics will just
> sum up infinite conversations we can have with them, notably on predictions
> and physics.
>
> Yes, that is where it all happens! But I feel like I am quite a way from
that.

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