Chris, I wait your answer to my post. The one I re-explained and ask "what is wrong above". Please use the 1-p distinction, which is the key precision to get things right (which is why Clark systematically forget it to "refute" step 3).

Bruno


On 26 Feb 2014, at 03:16, chris peck wrote:

Hi Liz

>> In the MWI you do see spin up every time! ,,, if the definition of "you" has been changed to accommodate the fact that you've split.

Well what definition of 'you' do you suggest we use? What is your criterion for identity over time?

With regards to Bruno's steps, at this point I actually don't feel I need a criterion myself. What I have instead is the yes-doctor assumption. In other words, whatever criterion is adopted it must satisfy the condition that whenever I am copied, destroyed and reconstructed somewhere else, the reconstruction IS me. Otherwise, unless suicidal, I would never say yes to the doctor.

This is why I used to argue Bruno was hoisted by his own petard because its his yes-doctor assumption that forces me to 'accommodate the fact that Ive split'.

All the best

Chris.


> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: 3-1 views (was: Re: Better Than the Chinese Room)
> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 19:21:00 +0100
>
>
> On 25 Feb 2014, at 18:35, John Clark wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > > provide the algorithm of prediction.
> >
> > Why? What does that have to do with the price of eggs? FPI is about
> > the feeling of self and prediction has nothing to do with it.
>
> FPI = first person indeterminacy of result of experience having two
> outcome due to digital self-duplication.
>
>
>
> >
> > > "W & M" has been refuted.
> >
> > You said that "we have to interview all copies" and I agree. After
> > the interviews this is what we find:
> >
> > W" has not refuted it.
> > "M" has not refuted it.
> > "W & M" have confirmed it.
>
> In the 3-1 views.
>
>
>
>
> >
> > > You miss this only by confusing the 3-1 view and the 1-view,
> >
> > Who's "the 1-view"?
>
> Each of them.
>
> Bruno
>
>
> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
>
>
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