Heh, understood Liz, thanks, but I wasn't offended, merely, puzzled. No, a 6000 
year old Earth is not what I see either. I would just warn you, or surprise 
you, that even lots of Phd's get 'bought-off' by being on the 'right side' of 
politicians who provide employment in academia, and the rich that fund the 
pols. I also just wanted to focus on when the climate whammy will happen, and 
we can do about? 


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Subject: Re: The solar example of a town in Germany



On 3 March 2014 05:33,  <spudboy...@aol.com> wrote:

Hmm. Show me how I disinformed? Oh! By disagreeing. Ah! But what are the facts? 
What is the behavior of pols and billionaires? Where's the panic over 
inundating waters? No crash programs? I guess its easy to be lied to, if one is 
bought off by ideology in the first place. The cause and effect part of the 
brain must go to sleep. 



Hang on, spudboy, if I read you right you are taking personally a comment I 
made about the behaviour of certain organisations who want to give a spurious 
scientific front to their already-decided views. Unless you're a member of the 
Discovery institute or something, that wasn't directed at you personally!

 



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Subject: Re: The solar example of a town in Germany





This is kind of a touchstone for these disinformation based organisations. They 
created institutes specifically to push some agenda. We've had tobacco, big 
oil, and of course the anti-evolution lot, all with their own "think tanks" and 
"institutes". Personally I reckon they got the idea from L Ron Hubbard, who 
once got into a conversation with fellow science fiction writers - I forget 
who, say James Blish and John W Campbell Jr, for the sake of argument - and 
they all proposed crazy ideas about how one could create a science based 
religion. "We could have little devices that let people measure their state of 
spiritual health!" they chortled, imagining this was just one of those games SF 
writers love to indulge in - little realising that Hubbard was making mental 
notes of everything they said.







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