Ghibbs, I really do take it seriously, but I have also become aware that (from a behavioral anthropological view) even climate scientists can get corrupted, can follow their peers in to group think, just like anyone else. So, I say, even though its their expertise (indeed!) they may not be doing their declared job-deciding what can be proven. That aside, I personally guess that putting all that crap in the air cannot be good for us (duh!) but I suspect these rulers of our societies, are using a problem like GW as an excuse to glom power. Hence my pointing at their lack of frantic effort that we observe in real crises. That aside, many of the Green supporters, including billionaires, want a switch-off of dirty power, when they have nothing to replace it. If GW is now upon us, despite weeks and weeks or artic storms here in the continental US and Canada, then the we may not have time to implement solar anyway. Is it possible that GW is slow in arrival? What then?
What would I like? A particle of nothing? Do things like build a power grid that can switch power all around from any source, just in case the GW becomes flesh, plus protecting against solar flares, and do things like using eutectic salt storage, to contain solar and wind power for electricity. But I don't feel GW is upon us, nor, do I feel that our leaders are truly, serious. We have time for lots of innovations, if we have time, and I say we do. I could drone on, and will. -----Original Message----- From: ghibbsa <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Mar 2, 2014 12:19 am Subject: Re: The solar example of a town in Germany On Sunday, March 2, 2014 3:05:55 AM UTC, [email protected] wrote: Yes Liz, I take the threat seriously, but am puzzled by the behavior of politicians, in anticipation of the historic calamity. The actions, even by true believers in AGW, does not compute. Secondly, why is North American, and European CO2, threaten the globe, but Chinese CO2 does not? This is a bit of a discrepancy. Lastly, I read mea culpa to the Eldars of Zion accusation as I their local leader, thus, I must recuse myself from this particularaccusation. Pax Vobiscum. you don't seem to take it that seriously. But is this about climate science only? I only ask because there's this nefarious but very effective lobby outfit that traces its roots back into the days of tobacco harm denial. They use very reliable psychological devices to create that sense of doubt. They really played hardball too....being willing to totally trash the reputation of science it secured their goals. Destroy individuals. Drive them to nervous breakdowns. Harass media outlets., That's nothing of it either. What they did was create these networks of think tanks, lobbies, libertarian fronts, that all basically referenced and agreed and which were all basically run by the same people. That work on people, in the masses, very effectively because over time hearing the same ideas fropm different directions, fires up our final background conceptual framework. This is the one that evolution puts beyond our conscious reach. We can access, and even shape it, but only indirectly by creating recurrent commitments or rituals - or exercize. Also things like incantations - repeating with emphasis - will begin to access that framework. It's a really important framework, this is where it gets decided what background reality is., What social respectability is. What is illegitimate and what is legitimate. It can be, and is, and has been, shaped, that background framework of ours, most of us anyway, , by this malicious sort of activist strategy I think the reason we respond this way, is either because it kind of makes sense an individual needs to be in a process of deciding what is intrinsic to reality that we need not consciousluy register it I mean look, just for the reality of scum like that screwing everyone over, there chances of a rational society wide decision making process. I mean what a way to say you don't care about anything. Just them being there makes me get behind the climate science and the scientists. Double other sciences -----Original Message----- From: LizR <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: 01-Mar-2014 21:13:39 +0000 Subject: Re: The solar example of a town in Germany On 2 March 2014 14:01, Chris de Morsella <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 3:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: The solar example of a town in Germany You need to power all civilization, once the leaders shut down all the dirty power. What can we replace it with. What do we have we have ready to go. The leaders all global Warming, so what can we do? They say its imminent. Who are these “leaders” you seem so worked up about? Is it the secret illuminati council of thirteen… who are these sinister “leaders” who believe global warming is imminent? The Elders of Zion? By the way, here is some scientific evidence, in case you're interested. http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. 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