On 3/12/2014 2:14 PM, LizR wrote:
On 13 March 2014 09:47, John Mikes <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Liz, please!
    don'[t you think "pursuit of happiness" is indeed "UNHAPPINESS"??
    Why would a happy person pursue happiness?
    I would not vote for 'unhappiness' as the meaning of life, although it 
looks like it
    frequently.

It's closer to a meaning than "happiness" imho. "Acheving happiness" could be a purpose, at least, although personally I still don't consider it a meaning. I'm not sure what sort of meaning life /could/ have. Meaning is generally something that is interpreted by a conscious entity, extracted from information, so the idea that life has a meaning more or less presupposes the existence of a God or something similar to whom our lives have some meaning (or at least purpose).

Monty Python parodied this in "The Meaning of Life" by the way, although I forget what the exact meaning of life turned out to be. (It was along the lines of "take plenty of exercise, don't eat too much fatty food..." etc)

"Meaning" implies referring to something else; a symbol means something when it stands in for it. Similarly for "purpose". You can have purposes, but they don't "mean" something. I think the right way to frame this kind of "ultimate" question is "What do you value?" Most people have different things they value. When they have enough leisure then they seek stimulation. Sometimes they want solace, sometimes companionship. There is no one "ultimate value", even for one person, much less for "mankind".

Brent
"People want their lives to have purpose without having to provide it
themselves."

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