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On 15 Mar 2014, at 18:48, Chris de Morsella wrote:

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>>> You know I love the french (a bit cynical) poem:
>
> 'man had the good,
> but he sought the best,
> he found the bad,
> and kept it,
> by fear of the worst.'
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> Kind regards,
>
> Bruno
>
> Nice... I mean bad :)
> Fear becomes, within the hidden unexamined recesses of mind, a self- 
> driving psychological mechanism, where our fear of something becomes 
> the thing we fear and begins to take over more and more of the mind -- 
> if not faced that is.
> Facing one's own primal visceral fears is the very hardest thing for a 
> person to ever do -- IMO -- the mind will try any trick and throw up 
> its best rationalizations why the fear should remain buried within and 
> not be faced. To face one's fears is a painful terrifying process, but 
> is also the only means of escaping the fate of being driven by them.
> A mind can never awaken as long as it remains primarily driven by its 
> unconscious (preconscious maybe is a better word) zombie processes.
> Often,
> even just recognizing that these exist within us is the hardest part. 
> Once recognized, for being what they are, at least the mind becomes 
> aware of them and can begin to act upon that awareness and in a more 
> self-aware manner.


Fears can be natural, and usually protect us. It can also become
pathological and obsessive, or (and that is often the case) exploited by
unscrupulous people, like fear of drugs, fear on terror, or the quasi
traditional fear of hells, that humans imitates easily in jails and camps,
during war or peace.


>>Not entirely sure "self-awareness" is always working in this setting,
although it could in many cases, but it can also lead to obsession, and
sometimes the inverse of self-awareness can help, like in zen technic to
forget yourself when acting, notably on a battle field. It is complicated.

Agreed -- fear is often a healthy protective mechanism. Was referring, to
the cyclic, mental entrapment that we can fall into when we become afraid of
our fears themselves. Fear can grow to fearsome size [I apologize for the
cheap pun] and paralyze the mind in an electric frenzy of neural panic. When
people  become paralyzed by fear;  their fear becomes their phobia. 

A meditated quiet mind state that has learned to see through its phobias and
hidden fears, is far more adept in the moment... and synchronized with the
flow of time and unfolding experienced reality.. than the unexamined mind,
self-consumed in, elaborate mental acrobatics to conceal, distract and
explain away, and that has buried large swaths of mind in memory holes,
driven to this twisted, weakened state of being, by sub-conscious zombie
phobias that are the manifestations of our unexamined fear.

Beginning, of course, with the fear of death... of our very personal death
of the self. This is the mother lode of unexamined fears IMO :)
But for those who manage to see past these fears there is much wonder in the
moment... in the moment that life has given us to experience.

Chris

Bruno





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