On 3/16/2014 12:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 15 Mar 2014, at 20:04, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/14/2014 7:21 PM, Matt Bell wrote:
This may very possibly be an idea that has already been discussed (I am very new to
this topic, so I'm still exploring the landscape of ideas), but it has been on my mind
recently.
If you subscribe to the theories of MWI/UDA, then the idea of quantum
immortality/suicide follows (an observer only perceives universes where it continues
to exist, so from its perspective it exists forever). From this, it follows that an
observer can "program" the universe into any possible state with the following process:
- Choose a condition for the universe (e.g. "It will start raining at my location
within 10 seconds.")
- Evaluate whether you are in a universe where the condition is true ("10 seconds have
passed. Has it started raining?")
- If the condition is false, stop existing (in a human context, suicide :/).
- If the process was followed correctly (the condition was evaluated accurately) the
observer should only exist in universes with the chosen state
This relies on the assumption that there is a possible universe where the condition is
true, and that the condition can be effectively evaluated.
I'm not yet sure about what to think about conditions about past events. What happens
if the chosen condition was "It started raining less than an hour ago."? This would
possibly work as expected if you don't evaluate the condition until after you chose it
(you were in a soundproof, windowless room for the last hour, so you didn't know it
started raining until after you decided on the condition).
Any thoughts? Or relevant material I should know about? Also, let me know if there's
some huge flaw in my thinking.
A possible flaw is that, if the holographic principle is true, that there are not
nearly so many possible future states as you may suppose. What is "possible" in QM is
not the same as "logically conceivable".
That's correct, but we assume usually "classical" quantum mechanics. Then, even if GR
digitalizes the access to futures, it seems to me that QM will still provide the rooms
for immortality (not necessarily a good news). Then, in such reasoning, QM uses comp,
and comp by itself leads to many forms of immortalities, if I can say.
But does comp lead to immortality from *every* state? Are there no cul-de-sac
worlds?
Brent
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