On Monday, March 24, 2014 4:48:13 AM UTC, chris peck wrote: > > The only person in any doubt was you wasn't it Liz? > > I found Tegmark's presentation very disappointing. He was alarmingly > apologetic about MWI pleading that its flaws were mitigated by the fact > other interpretations had similar flaws; as if the fact someone else is ill > would make you less ill yourself. I think in the world of QM > interpretations, with bugger all evidence to decide between them, the game > is to even out the playing field in terms of flaws and then chase > parsimony. Ofcourse, whether an infinite set of worlds is more or less > parsimonious than just one + a few hidden variables, or one + a spooky > wave function collapse, depends very much on what definition of > parsimonious you find most fitting. > MWI is refuted by the massive totally unexamined - some unrealized to this day - assumptions built in at the start. It's like, local realism - a reasonable assumed universal. But only the bare bones. Assuming locarealism means locality as we perceive, and classically seems to be. In; these dimensions. But what happens when science transforms through a major generalization? The hallmark is that not only theories get merged, broken up, such that everything looks different. But that the revolution stretchs right out to the conceptual framework itself...the basic concepts that are upfront necessary to be shared, for basic communication to take place. It's all concepts broken apart, while others merged together. We can put some faith in local realism, but in what dimensionality it's pure, we don't about that yet..we don't know.MWI assumes that it's a safe scientific known. It isn't. In fact everything is against that. There literally dozens of others. Like assuming major properties are duplicated "as is" between higher and lower macrostate layers. MWI'ers need to assume local realism at quantum levels as is. Unprecedented if true. Daft in other words. When I throw this at them, the response if there is one is usually6 denial that MWI needs those massive assumptions and would not have happened without them. Arguments come the lines of MWI is derived clean from the wave function or by some other theoretical strtucture, involving simple assumptions only none of them things like local realism. They just don't get it, science, anymore. theories as internal theory structure get improved all the time as part of an ongoing progression. Building out an assumption is not a matter of improving theory structure alone. MWI is tied to assuming local realism for all time, because it was only the extreme and disturbing - incomprehensible even to the greats - character of quantum strangenessl. MWI is tied to it, because that is what it took hat an outrageous, unscientific notion like MWI could be taken seriously at all. MWI even now, has not defense for itself, without reference to quantum strangeness,, and restorations to classical determinism. It's a quantum theory, and it's wrong, because it's assumptions are that the nature of reality is hard tied forever to principles, hard tied to the complexities of this dimension, this universe right here. What a joke. The harm done by this theory is immeasurable. A theory sterile for all time, placed all around the boundaries beyond the frontiers of science, that can never be discoverex, never be passed through, never be built over, or under. It's an act of murder of the human and scientific dreamss
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