On 28 Mar 2014, at 23:05, meekerdb wrote:

On 3/28/2014 8:03 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

On 27 Mar 2014, at 15:55, smi...@zonnet.nl wrote:

Citeren Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com>:



Is electron position a continuous observable? Even if it is and there are an infinity of brains, why should that result in an infinity of minds? It would seem unlikely that brains would evolve so that an arbitrarily small
change in the position of an electron would cause a change in
consciousness, and we know that even gross changes in the brain, as occur
in stroke or head injury, sometimes have remarkably little effect.


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Stathis Papaioannou


Yes, there are only a finite number of quantum states that even the entire visible part of the universe can be in.

In which theory? I mean, in which QM?

I think that even an electron in an atom of hydrogen can be in infinitely many quantum states, in non GR version of QM. I guess I miss something here.

That is only true of an idealized hydrogen atom in an otherwise empty, infinite universe.

You think about its energy state, but I was thinking more on the position of the electron, without GR.



In the real world there are other atoms and fields that disrupt the Rydberg orbits. Supposedly the number of states within the hubble sphere is limited by the holographic principle - although that's speculation based on on semi-classical analysis of horizons.


OK.

Bruno



http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/



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