Sorry when I said "you" I didn't mean you specifically, I meant generically - "one" would have been better.
I shall try to paraphrase myself in an attempt to better express what I was trying to say. Hence, people who claim that scientists agree because of some reason other than looking at the instruments and using their best theories to interpret the readings - e.g. people who claim that they agree for some psychological reason, e.g. because they all adhere to some "paradigm" - are talking bollocks. On 7 April 2014 14:56, chris peck <[email protected]> wrote: > >> They agree because the equipment they used produced a signal they > interpreted using their best available theories as indicating the existence > of the Higgs. > > Right I see. So the physicists at cern don't count the number of people > who are in agreement, they actually do look at equipment now and again. > Thats a relief because Brent had me worried that they didn't think they had > to do much of that. > > > >> Hence if you're interested in why they agree, you have to take into > account how the experiment works, how the confidence levels were assessed, > and so on. It's no good just saying "I'm only interested in why they agree" > as though you're privy to some extraordinary psychological insight, because > that's just wilfully ignoring the real facts of the matter. > > eh? > > >> Otherwise you're just like the postmodernists who used to claim that > "all views are equivalent" but still preferred to fly to conferences by jet > rather than broomstick for reasons they could never quite explain (well, > not without showing themselves up to be pompous idiots, which I guess - > dipping my toes into the world of extraordinary psychological insight > myself for a moment - they wanted to avoid). > > > Im sure you know what you're talking about but I haven't got a clue. > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 14:47:42 +1200 > > Subject: Re: If you can't disprove the science, you can always try suing > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > > On 7 April 2014 14:32, chris peck <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> So does the agreement of physicists at CERN tell you nothing about > whether the Higgs boson exists? > > It tells me absolutely nothing. Im interested in why they agree not that > they agree. > > > They agree because the equipment they used produced a signal they > interpreted using their best available theories as indicating the existence > of the Higgs. > > Hence if you're interested in why they agree, you have to take into > account how the experiment works, how the confidence levels were assessed, > and so on. It's no good just saying "I'm only interested in why they > agree" as though you're privy to some extraordinary psychological insight, > because that's just wilfully ignoring the real facts of the matter. > > Otherwise you're just like the postmodernists who used to claim that "all > views are equivalent" but still preferred to fly to conferences by jet > rather than broomstick for reasons they could never quite explain (well, > not without showing themselves up to be pompous idiots, which I guess - > dipping my toes into the world of extraordinary psychological insight > myself for a moment - they wanted to avoid). > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
