On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 12:32 AM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:

>  On 4/15/2014 3:19 PM, LizR wrote:
>
>  On 16 April 2014 09:42, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> What cultural ideas would those be?  Get out of Viet Nam?  Civil rights
>> for blacks?  The pill?
>>
>>   Plus (off the top of my head (man)) - sexual freedom and equality, the
> anti-establishment vibe seen in Occupy, Wikileaks etc, freedom of
> expression, a raft of artistic ideas too wide for this margin to contain...
>
>
> I can see attributing some artistic ideas to the psychedelics, but I think
> the anti-establishment vibe came from the Viet Nam war and sexual freedom
> came from the pill. Ideals of equality drove the civil rights movement and
> its natural extension was to equal rights for women.
>
> I don't see any useful insights as having come from psychedelics.  Sure,
> their effect is interesting from a neurophysiological standpoint - but so
> are brain lesions.
>

Unfortunately we can't analyse this issue scientifically without risk being
thrown in a cage for many years. This leads me to conclude that there might
be something to be said for the anti-establishment-vibe-inducing properties
of psychadelics. :) Especially given that there is no evidence whatsoever
of any serious social or health ill-efects associated with the use of such
drugs.

For what it's worth, Francis Creek, Carl Sagan and Steve Jobs might
disagree with you.

Telmo.


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