I think my theory is a simple as possible.  You should read my book.  Let me 
know if you want me to send it to you.

 

John R.

 

From: [email protected] 
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Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 7:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: TRONNIES

 

On 12 May 2014 11:50, John Ross <[email protected]> wrote:

LizR,

 

Are you suggesting that just because there is an existing description of the  
proton that we should not try to develop a better description?

 

No, I'm suggesting that you need a reason to think this will be a better 
description. So far I don't think you've given one, unless I missed it. As I 
keep asking, what is your reason for thinking this description of reality is 
better than the existing one? In other words, what did you look at in existing 
theories (the Standard Model and Quantum mechanics in this case) that you 
decided was wrong or in need of improvement, and what chain of reasoning led 
you from perceiving those flaws to developing your existing theory?

 

I have shown that Coulomb forces can hold protons together and Coulomb forces 
can hold together alpha particles and all of the other atomic nuclei can be 
held together.  We know for sure that Coulomb forces exist.  We can see it when 
we comb our hair.  We do not know the strong force exists.  And we do not 

 

I could use the same type of argument to say "we can see that the strong 
nuclear force exists because matter doesn't fall apart very often." But that 
would be equally fallacious to your hair-combing argument. The evidence for all 
forces and particles are theories we have developed about the (hypothetical) 
world outside our brains (or to be 100% Cartesian, our minds). This is as true 
of the electromagnetic force as it is of all the others. They are all 
hypotheses which we think best explain certain aspects of our sense 
impressions. You can't pull "ontological superiority" of EM vs the strong force 
on the basis of what we can see or otherwise sense, because they are both 
hypothetical entities invented as the best available explanation for sensory 
phenomena.

 

The EM force is approx 1/100th the strength of the strong force. Holding 
protons together against the mutual repulsion of their components (a repulsion 
that is due to the EM force) would seem to require a force that is quite a bit 
stronger than the EM force, otherwise we'd expect protons to decay fairly 
rapidly. Using the EM force to balance itself seems tricky, to say the least.

 

know quarks exists.  Maybe they do exist but I do not believe so.   We also do 
not know what preceded the Big Bang .  I believe I know.  Wouldn’t you like to 
know  what preceded the Big Bang?  Or would you say, “Why should we care, what 
difference does it make.  Are you satisfied with a theory that says our 
Universe with 100 to 400 billion galaxies began with a singularity? 

 

Eternal inflation is a leading contender for a cosmological version of a theory 
of everything, and that doesn't say our universe began with a singularity (or 
that it began at all). Neither does the colliding branes theory with the fancy 
Greek (?) name require a singularity (although that may have been ruled out by 
some recent observations of the CMBR).

 

At one time I thought that one of the purposes of this chat group might be to 
try to find a better “theory of everything”.  We certainly will not find it if 
we don’ try. 

 

This is the difference between having an open mind and letting you brain fall 
out. (Sometimes the boundary between these isn't obvious.) Trying to develop a 
theory, if one believes Karl Popper, involves testing it against all 
theoretical and experimental objections. I (and others) are merely asking 
simple questions that any theory that purports to cover all or most of existing 
physics should be able to answer, for example:

1/ what is the supporting evidence for your theory being superior to its rivals?

2/ what is the reasoning that led you to believe a theory of this form will 
work better than existing theories?

 

3/ what explanatory improvements does your theory have over its rivals (I know 
it has simplicity, at least in terms of the number of particles and forces, but 
then it seems to have a few "epicycles", like requiring odd behaviour from 
these particles...so I'm not sure where Occam comes in in this case).

Have you read Stephen Hawking’s book: The Theory of Everything?  He believes 
science has become too complicated and we need a theory that can be 
understandable in broad principal by everyone, not just a few scientists.

 

I haven't read that particular book, but I've heard that those sentiments have 
been expressed by various scientists. All successful theories tend to move in 
the direction of being understandable by everyone, as scientists (like Hawking) 
produce popularised versions, and people working on the theory find that they 
can make simplifications. Relativity went along this route, for example, from 
an alleged 3 people capable of understanding it ("and I'm not sure who the 
third one is") to Martin Gardner's "Relativity for the million".

 

I think you would find that, for example, string theory would be understandable 
by most people if enough writers decided to popularise it. This has already 
happened to some extent.

"It can scarcely be denied that the supreme goal of all theory is to make the 
irreducible basic elements as simple and as few as possible without having to 
surrender the adequate representation of a single datum of experience."

-- Albert Einstein, often paraphrased as  "A theory should be as simple as 
possible, but no simpler."

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