What is this "self-propelled" business? Galilean relativity (and Newtonian mechanics) indicate that there is no state of absolute rest - I know Newton mentions it in his first law but everything he goes on to show after that indicates that there is no such thing. Hence to say that something is "self propelled to" a certain speed is meaningless unless the speed is relative to something. (And it also appears to be a form of perpetual motion!)
On 14 May 2014 05:45, John Ross <[email protected]> wrote: > This would be a lot simpler if you would let me send you a copy of my book > (free of course and autographed). Just let me know your mailing address. > You can call and leave it in a message (858-646-5488). > > According to my model the proton is self-propelled by internal Coulomb > forces to about 13 % of the speed of light. In the early days of our > Universe it slowed down to close to zero speed by capturing gamma ray > entrons. Also helped cool off our Universe. Some of these gamma ray > entrons are released when the four protons combine to make helium. This is > fusion energy. These gamma ray entrons add to the mass of hydrogen atoms > and all other atoms up through iron-56. (I have assumed that iron-56 has > no > gamma ray entrons in its nucleus.) As each of these atoms are created in > stars, some of those gamma ray entrons are released as gamma ray photons. > This is the way stars create energy in my model. > > Alpha particles are also self-propelled by internal coulomb forces and they > slow down by capturing gamma ray entrons. Some of these are released when > the alpha particles are combined to make carbon-12 and oxygen-16 and > heavier > nuclei. > > The deuterium nucleus is two circling protons with one electron looping > through the circle. It has an orbiting electron just like normal hydrogen. > Heavy hydrogen molecule is nothing like helium. > > Alpha particles and deuterons are three dimensional. The protons circle in > a plane but the electron(s) loop through the center of the circles. > > I don't believe in gluons. I also believe neutrons have an average life of > about 15 minutes whether they are inside or outside atomic nuclei. This > allows the electron in specific configurations to exactly balance the > Coulomb attractive and repulsive forces in nuclei. > > John R > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Russell Standish > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 5:43 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: TRONNIES > > On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 09:23:44AM -0700, John Ross wrote: > > The alpha particle is comprised of four protons repelling each other > while > circling in a tight circle and two electrons looping through the circular > path of the protons. The four protons are attracted to the two electrons. > The Coulomb forces from the two electrons are effective in keeping the > protons circling. > > > > OK lets start with this model. Two electrons do not provide sufficient > screening to turn the repulsive Coulomb force into an attractive one. And > attractive it must be - alpha particles are one of the most stable forms of > matter in the universe, with the release of its binding energy being what > powers the sun, hydrogen bombs and so on. > > So can you give a rough explanation as to how your theory explains this > binding energy? > > Does your theory distinguish between a helium atom and a deuterium > molecule? > It would appear that 4 electrons and 4 protons are involved in both cases, > according to your theory, yet chemically they couldn't be more different. > And why does it require enormous forces to turn one into the other? > > "Tight circle" implies a 2 dimensional geometry, which obviously breaks the > normal 3D rotational symmetry. In which direction is this axis of rotation > pointed in a typical alpha particle? Is it aligned with the particle's > direction of travel, or perpendicular to it? > > BTW - the traditional explanation of all of this has the neutrons and > protons exchanging charged gluons, causing each hadron to exist in a > superposition of proton and neutron states. But exchanging particles in > this > way is effectively force, and traditionally this force is called the strong > force, which is what you're trying to deny. > > -- > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > Principal, High Performance Coders > Visiting Professor of Mathematics [email protected] > University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au > > Latest project: The Amoeba's Secret > (http://www.hpcoders.com.au/AmoebasSecret.html) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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