Im not convinced you need it. In Kolak's dissertation "I am you," which you can google and find in its 700 page entirety he defends the idea rather well with no mention of the actuality of all possible things. He goes about arguing that the borders we take as individuating boundaries don't actually constitute those between different persons.
On Thursday, May 15, 2014, Russell Standish <[email protected]> wrote: > Ah - that doesn't make sense if you take the ensemble everything idea > to be true. > > Open Individualism doesn't seem very believable unless the ensemble > everything idea is true. > > Cheers > > On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 12:56:18AM -0500, Dennis Ochei wrote: > > In this scenario you dont experience all possible experiences, only the > > experiences that actually arise during the course of history > > > > On Thursday, May 15, 2014, Russell Standish > > <[email protected]<javascript:;>> > wrote: > > > > > On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 09:05:15PM -0700, Dennis Ochei wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Under Daniel Kolak's open individualism< > > > http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_individualism> there > > > > exists one numerically distinct person who is everyone at all times. > > > What I > > > > want to explore is the implications of this theory for a self > interested > > > > individual. For those unfamiliar with Open Individualism, you might > > > instead > > > > imagine a demon appears to you, and informs you that after you die > you > > > will > > > > experience what it is like to be every person that ever lived. > > > > > > > > The only rational course of action seems to be to maximize utility > across > > > > lives. Meaning if $1 will buy you in your current life 1 unit of > utility, > > > > but would afford another person 10 units, it would be rationally self > > > > interested to donate the money, if you expect to experience what they > > > shall > > > > experience. This is essentially Singer's Effective Altruism at work. > Are > > > > there any other rational courses of action if Open Individualism is > true > > > > (or if the hypothetical demon appeared) and one is self interested? > > > > > > > > > > If you are going to be experiencing all possible experiences, anyway, > then > > > what does it matter what you decide? > > > > > > This is an indication of level confusion. > > > > > > Possibly decision theory might work if future experiences are > > > discounted by how far in the future they are, but then how to work out > > > how far away the other person's experience is from you? > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > > > Principal, High Performance Coders > > > Visiting Professor of Mathematics > > > [email protected]<javascript:;> > <javascript:;> > > > University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au > > > > > > Latest project: The Amoeba's Secret > > > (http://www.hpcoders.com.au/AmoebasSecret.html) > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > > > Google Groups "Everything List" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > > > > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/everything-list/S5Qi3Q_2TTI/unsubscribe. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > > > [email protected] <javascript:;><javascript:;>. > > > To post to this group, send email to > > > [email protected]<javascript:;> > <javascript:;> > > > . > > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sent from Gmail Mobile > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Everything List" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to [email protected] <javascript:;>. > > To post to this group, send email to > > [email protected]<javascript:;> > . > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > Principal, High Performance Coders > Visiting Professor of Mathematics [email protected]<javascript:;> > University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au > > Latest project: The Amoeba's Secret > (http://www.hpcoders.com.au/AmoebasSecret.html) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/everything-list/S5Qi3Q_2TTI/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected] <javascript:;>. > To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]<javascript:;> > . > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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