On Sunday, May 18, 2014 9:34:40 PM UTC-4, Russell Standish wrote:
>
> On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 08:43:23AM -0700, Craig Weinberg wrote: 
> > Free Will Universe Model: Non-computability and its relationship to the 
> > ‘hardware’ of our Universe 
> > 
> > I saw his poster presentation at the TSC conference in Tucson and 
> thought 
> > it was pretty impressive. I'm not qualified to comment on the math, but 
> I 
> > don't see any obvious problems with his general approach: 
> > 
> > http://jamestagg.com/2014/04/26/free-will-universe-paper-text-pdf/ 
> > 
> > Some highlights: 
> > 
> > 
> > Some Diophantine equations are easily solved 
> > > automatically, for example: 
> > > ∃𝑥, ∃𝑦 𝑥² = 𝑦² , 𝑥 & 𝑦 ∈ ℤ 
> > > Any pair of integers will do, and a computer programmed 
> > > to step through all the possible solutions will find one 
> > > immediately at ‘1,1’. An analytical tool such as Mathematica, 
> > > Mathcad or Maple would also immediately give symbolic 
> > > solutions to this problem therefore these can be solved 
> > > mechanically. But, Hilbert did not ask if ‘some’ equations 
> > > could be solved, he asked if there was a general way to solve 
> > > any Diophantine equation. 
> > > 
> > > ... 
> > > *Consequence* 
> > > In 1995 Andrew Wiles – who had been secretly working on 
> > > Fermat’s ‘arbitrary equation’ since age eight – announced he 
> > > had found a proof. We now had the answers to both of our 
> > > questions: Fermat’s last theorem is provable (therefore 
> > > obviously decidable) and no algorithm could have found this 
> > > proof. This leads to a question; If no algorithm can have 
> > > found the proof what thought process did Wiles use to answer 
> > > the question: Put another way, Andrew Wiles can not be a 
> > > computer. 
> > > 
> > 
>
> This doesn't follow. An evolutionary algorithm with a real random 
> source, can potentially stumble upon any solution, not just ones for 
> which no algorithm can find. There even remains some doubt that "real 
> randomness" is required, so long as the entropy of the random source 
> is sufficiently high. 
>

The Wiles proof didn't have a random source though, it was developed 
intentionally.
 

>
> In COMP, the universal dovetailer provides plenty of real randomness 
> from the subjective point of view, that can be harnessed. Perhaps 
> that's exactly what Andrew Wiles did. (In fact, I really rather think 
> he did - my proofs, which are not so grand as Andrew's, usually 
> involve some "divine spark of inspiration", which is just another term 
> for rolling a random number generator). 
>

You're still the one intentionally doing the rolling.

Thanks
 

>
> Cheers 
>
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