On 5/29/2014 8:43 PM, Samiya Illias wrote:


On 30-May-2014, at 7:35 am, LizR <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
wrote:

On 30 May 2014 14:26, Samiya Illias <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    These are people who are committing crimes in the name of religion. You, on 
the
    outside, are horrified by such acts in the name of Islam, and are terrified 
of it,
    rightly so. We, on the other hand, live in midst of this blatant violation 
of the
    guidance in the Quran! What these elements have not been able to find or 
insert in
    the Quran, they have created


Some of the people involved are priests, and some are students of Islam - do you think that these are people who are committing crimes in the name of religion? Again this is a straight question, I'm not drawing any conclusions at the moment.

What's wrong is wrong. They may think they're doing right and may feel it to be their pious duty, however it is still wrong. How God will judge them is another matter, let God do that. However, it is important to speak up and point out that it's incorrect and inhumane.

Please also bear in mind that all religions have suffered the tragedy of deviation from the original message, misunderstood and convoluted it into something terrible.

Exactly. And why is that? Isn't it because religions derive their dogma from divine revelations which cannot be discarded, only "interpreted". What religion ever praised the will to find out instead of the will to believe?

Islam has also suffered thus. However, the arabic Quran is preserved in written form and in the minds of millions of people since it was revealed.

And how do you know the ramblings of an illiterate merchant revealed anything except his ignorance and prejudices.

That is the criteria that I apply to evaluate whether something is correct or not. You may have noticed that I present Quranic verses to answer or explain my point, which I believe is divinely revealed, and not Hadith which I believe are human efforts at compiling history and thus are replete with human shortcomings.

You keep saying what you believe - but you give no reason that anyone else 
should believe it.

Brent


Samiya



    On 30-May-2014, at 5:28 am, LizR <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
    So which lot is it who does this sort of thing? Honest question.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-27614359

    
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/10850212/Iranian-actress-Leila-Hatami-faces-public-flogging.html

    http://m.inquirer.net/newsinfo/?id=606058


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