> On 30-May-2014, at 9:16 am, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 5/29/2014 8:43 PM, Samiya Illias wrote: >> >> >> On 30-May-2014, at 7:35 am, LizR <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On 30 May 2014 14:26, Samiya Illias <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> These are people who are committing crimes in the name of religion. You, >>>> on the outside, are horrified by such acts in the name of Islam, and are >>>> terrified of it, rightly so. We, on the other hand, live in midst of this >>>> blatant violation of the guidance in the Quran! What these elements have >>>> not been able to find or insert in the Quran, they have created >>> >>> Some of the people involved are priests, and some are students of Islam - >>> do you think that these are people who are committing crimes in the name of >>> religion? Again this is a straight question, I'm not drawing any >>> conclusions at the moment. >> >> What's wrong is wrong. They may think they're doing right and may feel it to >> be their pious duty, however it is still wrong. How God will judge them is >> another matter, let God do that. However, it is important to speak up and >> point out that it's incorrect and inhumane. >> >> Please also bear in mind that all religions have suffered the tragedy of >> deviation from the original message, misunderstood and convoluted it into >> something terrible. > > Exactly. And why is that? Isn't it because religions derive their dogma > from divine revelations which cannot be discarded, only "interpreted". What > religion ever praised the will to find out instead of the will to believe?
ALQURAN CH3:191 Those who remember Allah standing, sitting, and lying down on their sides, and think deeply about the creation of the heavens and the earth,"Our Lord! You have not created this without purpose, glory to You! Give us salvation from the torment of the Fire. You can find many verses in the Quran which exhort us to think and use our intelligence. Samiya > >> Islam has also suffered thus. However, the arabic Quran is preserved in >> written form and in the minds of millions of people since it was revealed. > > And how do you know the ramblings of an illiterate merchant revealed anything > except his ignorance and prejudices. > >> That is the criteria that I apply to evaluate whether something is correct >> or not. You may have noticed that I present Quranic verses to answer or >> explain my point, which I believe is divinely revealed, and not Hadith which >> I believe are human efforts at compiling history and thus are replete with >> human shortcomings. > > You keep saying what you believe - but you give no reason that anyone else > should believe it. > > Brent > >> >> Samiya >> >> >>>> >>>> On 30-May-2014, at 5:28 am, LizR <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> So which lot is it who does this sort of thing? Honest question. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-27614359 >>>>> >>>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/10850212/Iranian-actress-Leila-Hatami-faces-public-flogging.html >>>>> >>>>> http://m.inquirer.net/newsinfo/?id=606058 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "Everything List" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "Everything List" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
