Telmo, Thanks, that was an interesting read. Although I disagree with the author's conclusion that the flaw he discovered had to be of a "Gödelian" type of self-reference error. Why should every idea Godel comes up with have to be of the type he is most famous for? They also dismiss other theories for being too obvious for someone like Godel, which I think is a mistake:
"Although such a scenario is possible and maybe even probable, especially in times of national emergencies, such an open and obvious abuse of power would have been too explicit or too obvious for a deep thinker like Gödel." The idea the authors settle on, which was passing an amendment to make amendments easier to pass in the future isn't really an exploitable flaw that can easily lead to dictatorship, as it still needs most of congress and 3/4th of the states to agree to that. I find it more likely that the president's authority to control the police and military to shutdown other branches of government was more in line with what might have worried Godel. Also, I don't think a flaw has to necessarily involve constitutional amendments or self-reference at all. A law passed by congress could make it a crime punishable by death to propose or vote on any law not proposed by the president, and also make it a crime to note vote in favor of any law proposed to congress by the president. This wouldn't require any constitutional amendment, but would be just as serious. Jason On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 4:32 AM, Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com> wrote: > The famous Gödel Loophole on the US constitution. Seems to be the usual > logician "trick": apply a statement to itself :) > > http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2010183 > > Best, > Telmo. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
