Having just re-re-read my good friend Wikipaedia's article on this, I'm still not sure exactly what Turing is proposing. It looks like what you said - that both a man and a computer tries to fool the judge that they're a woman! Which is bizarre, but so are cyanide coated apples if one can believe that. The diagram doesn't help much either! (Still it sounds as though Turing's measure of intelligence was whether one could appear female, I can't argue with that :-)
Sterret referred to this as the "Original Imitation Game Test".[57] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test#cite_note-FOOTNOTEMoor2003-57> Turing proposed that the role of player A be filled by a computer so that its task was to pretend to be a woman and attempt to trick the interrogator into making an incorrect evaluation. The success of the computer was determined by comparing the outcome of the game when player A is a computer against the outcome when player A is a man. Turing stated if "the interrogator decide[s] wrongly as often when the game is played [with the computer] as he does when the game is played between a man and a woman",[21] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test#cite_note-FOOTNOTETuring1950434-21> it may be argued that the computer is intelligent. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Turing_Test_Version_1.png> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Turing_Test_Version_1.png> The Original Imitation Game Test, in which the player A is replaced with a computer. The computer is now charged with the role of the woman, while player B continues to attempt to assist the interrogator. Figure adapted from Saygin, 2000.[1] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test#cite_note-FOOTNOTESaygin2000-1> The second version appeared later in Turing's 1950 paper. Similar to the Original Imitation Game Test, the role of player A is performed by a computer. However, the role of player B is performed by a man rather than a woman. "Let us fix our attention on one particular digital computer *C.* Is it true that by modifying this computer to have an adequate storage, suitably increasing its speed of action, and providing it with an appropriate programme, *C* can be made to play satisfactorily the part of A in the imitation game, the part of B being taken by a man?"[21] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test#cite_note-FOOTNOTETuring1950434-21> In this version, both player A (the computer) and player B are trying to trick the interrogator into making an incorrect decision. On 10 June 2014 13:09, LizR <[email protected]> wrote: > Was that true in all the versions he published? I read the second version > of the test and wasn't sure if he meant the computer was trying to imitate > a woman, or just fool the judge that it was a person. It seems a bit > bizarre to have the judge trying to work out if it's a woman or a man or a > computer, rather than whether it's a person or a computer! > > > > On 10 June 2014 10:07, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 6/9/2014 2:37 PM, LizR wrote: >> >> PPS those transcripts are hilarious, how could anyone be fooled? I mean >> maybe if you had no idea there was a possibility of it being a computer, >> just maybe ....but you'd definitely think you had someone autistic. >> >> PPPS were the judges also computers? Just asking. Some *people *couldn't >> pass the Turing Test. >> >> >> Although it's never mentioned anymore, the actual test that Turing >> proposed was that a man and a computer would each pretend to be a woman in >> a conversation with the judge. If the computer could fool the judges as >> well as the man could, that would be a mark of intelligence. The test was >> perhaps indicative of Turing's thoughts about sexual identity. >> >> Brent >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
