On 27 June 2014 04:28, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List < [email protected]> wrote:
> > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *LizR > > > > >>Yes, according to this view we are just "along for the ride". > > > > One way of looking at it. However it seems to me more apt to think of > ourselves as the loci of the consensus of our brain/minds; to view > ourselves as the dynamic manifestation of a consensus quorum, which is the > wellhead of our coming into being. > > We are in some sense operators as well in this neural consensus network, > influencing its vast number of constituent neurons with what we feel, > believe, conclude and so on. However all this “feeling”, “believing”, > “concluding” is actually happening in the brain/mind and mediating through > what we sense as being ourselves back through the quorum network (that I > suspect is operating beneath our conscious selves) looping back to us as > “doubt”, “certainty”, new thoughts or focus of attention or whatever > beautiful or ugly turn our mind’s eye takes. > > In my view our common view of ourselves, of our “I” is incomplete. We are > more than we are conscious of being and the part of ourselves, of which we > are conscious – IMO -- is the narrating loci of the executive decisional > consensus network that I am arguing is our actual “self”…. Even though we > are unaware of the existence of by far most of its constituent activity. > > > Yes, sorry I should have specified that by "we" I only meant "our conscious selves". The bit we think of as the decision maker, experiencer, and so on. If you take the totality into account then of course "we" make our decisions - but the process isn't, apparently, conscious. That is, we may feel that we have chosen to make a cup of tea, snub a friend, stay an execution – but these decisions are actually formulated unconsciously, and presented to our conscious selves as *faits accompli*. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

