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Well, of one takes the actions or inactions of gov leaders, specifically,
U.S., then there is a lot at stake to lose. I am, whatever it's worth, far
different, from what Fox views editorially. For instance, Rupert Murdoch is
meeting with Obama advisor, Valerie Jarrett on promoting more immigration
from Latin America. That is different then how I feel. Secondly, most US
media are never critical of Obama's governance, because he is a fellow
progressive, and the first black president. No criticisms, just support. Oh
believe I am an American nationalist, but a pragmatic one. I always ask what
has been achieved if anything?
You are an American Nationalist who wants others to go die for you.
essentially. My question, which I repeat, if you are so gung ho about some
kind of clash of civilizations then how come you are not on the front lines
fighting your crusade? Or do you prefer that others do the dying while you
get to wax on with your self-righteous attitude? While you take care to keep
yourself well out of harm's way.
A chickenhawk: One, who is a hawk, but only when it is others who are doing
the dying.
Moreover, Using ponder where, as a species we want to be? The only thing
anyone needs to fear from the ineffectual Fox News, is when somebody screws
up and then lies about it. Lastly, I don't see Fox as having all that much
clout, so your displeasure with them is likely, a waste of bradykinans, the
brain chemical.
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From: Platonist Guitar Cowboy <multiplecit...@gmail.com>
To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: 28-Jun-2014 10:41:40 +0000
Subject: Re: American Intelligence
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 2:10 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List
<everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Not disagreeing with Brent, but realpolitik only works when you like the
outcome. I tend to be absolutist in my war views, so the nuances are wasted
on me.
Indeed, often you sound as "absolutist" as the militant FOX bitch, Liz
posted yesterday. Not that I mind, but it's worth pointing out, I guess. PGC
It is however, what's the result at the end of the day. The biggest question
is, what is the national interest? Usually it means whatever pleases the
super rich. If you happen to be on Soros or the Koch's side, then all is
good. If not...?
It's called realpolitik. Do you want the President to choose who to support
based on their morality and disregard the national interest? And how would
you measure their morality? Maybe the real plan is to keep any one
murderous faction from winning so they keep fighting till they've all killed
each other.
Brent
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From: meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net>
To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Jun 26, 2014 11:57 pm
Subject: Re: American Intelligence
On 6/26/2014 8:45 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com
[mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ruquist
Spud,
I will fault Obama for supporting the ISIS in Syria but opposing them in
Iraq.
Richard
It amazed me how they tried to rebrand these intolerant murderous A-holes as
freedom fighters when these dogs of war became useful tools again in Syria.
>From Al-Qaida our immortal enemies to "freedom fighters" just like that,
given the old Madison Avenue makeover.
The cynicism of the power knows no bounds and has no decency at all in its
old vampire bones.
It's called realpolitik. Do you want the President to choose who to support
based on their morality and disregard the national interest? And how would
you measure their morality? Maybe the real plan is to keep any one
murderous faction from winning so they keep fighting till they've all killed
each other.
Brent
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