Dear John, Please see my responses below.
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 2:27 AM, John Mikes <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Samiya, you wrote a pretty long lecture upon my short question(s) > Oops. Didn't intend it as a lecture, just a comprehensive answer to a query. > and one point caught my amazement - still swirling around in my mind. > The question about the questionability of genders in the "afterworld". > Or the 'maybe' absence of them. Makes sense to me. > :) > Not even for the 'old grandpa in the white nightgown' or Jesus, the "son" > of that grandpa. > It seems (and you are part of it as well - sorry) we all THINK about what > we call 'god' and believe as a supernatural, in restricted terms of our > HUMAN thinking of the day. > Indeed we humans are limited by ou individual and collective knowledge and imaginations > Comparison: science postulates a lot about the mental activities of > animals - all in our human terms and concepts. (Not only that: in our > TODAY's terms). > It does > 10,000, 5,000, 2,000, 1500 years ago as well as yesterday humans figured > out what they would surround with 'awe' and impersonated such ideas into a > 'god' (or more than one?) with appreciable human attributes. > I feel humans have this innate desire to worship, as well as realize their own weakness and insufficiency. We either worship and look towards the one and only true God (to whom is due primal origin, and continues to create, sustain and govern), or we raise a multitude of gods which serve our temporal needs and purposes, or we reduce the former into the latter through corruption of thought and text... > > I am perplexed about our *'gender related'* worldview and find it a > relaxing idea that it may last only as long as our (terrestrial) life does. > That may be only ONE of many such facets we have to learn as peculiarities > of our life. Maybe more to come. > :) > It does not alleviate my scorn against 'males' suppresing weaker 'females' > into domestic slaves serving men and depriving the women of things they > (the males) like to do, know and possess. > All those who abuse power, and oppress /suppress the weak deserve scorn. Women have been suppressed throughout history, in almost all cultures and religions, or the absence or it, in various guises. By far and large, men have always abused their position with respect to women. If I may opinionate, even in Western culture where women are 'liberated', it seems that women have been 'short-changed' into giving up their privileges and end up working twice as hard. Now, they have to earn their living, are still campaigning for equal-pay, have to be more and more concerned about their appearance and presentability, marriage and children have become a luxury which only a select few can indulge in, families and populations are being decimated through contraception and abortions, while men are more 'liberated' having lesser responsibilities, fewer and fewer supporting families, and with sex becoming freely available, the need for marriage and family has declined. And eventually, as a consequence, most people are ending up in 'old-peoples' homes. > > It does not give me solace either for the extreme differences of > potentials (*both genders*) may experience in their terrestrial life, in > talents, physical capabilities, wealth/poverty, knowledge, or primitive > ignorance, degrees of freedom, and - you name it. It really would take 'a > god' to judge the life of a mentally retarded boondox beggar vs. Candidate > gov. Romney, or Marie Curie - > If there will be a "day of judgement" indeed. In this respect > reincarnation makes more sense. > How does reincarnation make more sense? What makes you think the same patterns will not be repeated. If we can draw any patterns from human history, the same patterns have been repeated across time and cultures. The tools and technologies may be different, but human motives and interactions are fairly common. (I am assuming by reincarnation, you mean re-birth in this terrestrial life, not resurrection for Judgement) > > In conclusion: I find ourselves in 'awe' of the impenetrable mysteries of > our world and figure out a creator, who does maintenance and keeps order > among us, uncontrollable creatures. > We would be in a lot of chaos or self-destruct without a governing force overriding and correcting our follies! Still the question stands: why was Hell created if 'god' is indeed so > forgiving? Satan??? Jews omit that part from the early Abrahamic Script. > As I understand from the Quran, God has inscribed the rule of Mercy upon Himself for the terrestrial, temporal life of us humans. He forgives over and over again for sins committed in ignorance and by mistake, or due to weaknesses, as long as the human is not transgressing obstinately and keeps searching for and reverting to God for forgiveness and guidance. God rules in Justice in the absolute sense, and is not unjust to any of His creations. Therefore, the Day of Judgement will be established and all humans rewarded justly. Quran speaks of a prior event: the Trust was offered to The Heavens, The Earth and The Mountains, but they all hesitated to bear the responsibility. The Human took it, and proved himself a tyrant and a fool (I think we can agree on this considering humanity as a unit, and history bears witness to human oppression and folly!). Therefore, God states, that the Rejectors and the Hypocrites must be punished, and therefore the Believers must be rewarded. Satan and his progeny are but part of God's creation and plan. When Adam was being created, God was creating Adam to send to the Earth, and the brief stay in the Garden was perhaps meant to plant it in our subconscious. Both humans (made from clay) and dJinns (made from fire) are to be judged and rewarded accordingly. Of course, this raises the question why create or allow evil? I don't think anyone has the answer to that, but that in no way refutes the existence of God or our accountability to God. May peace be with you, Samiya > Best regards > John M > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
