That actually seems very wise, since it removes guesswork, prejudice, and fear, from policy decisions. Secondly, its an honest approach. One way to have limited Putin's behavior, in front of his own electorate, would've have been, if a few years ago, Obama, might have mentioned publicly at a G* meeting, "What's the matter Vlad? Do you really, expect, for the US and Canada to send invading troops over the poll, to raid the Russian Motherland (Rodina)?? What would we be seeking, your furs, silver, women???" It would be doing one of Sol Alinsky's 'rules' on Putin, ridicule, based on lack of credulity on his part.
I like this guy, (Bruce Bueno Di Misquita, a lot, a political theorist, because he says most people are rational actors ( I disagree) but, it does provide openings for negotiation based on verifiable facts. Let me know what you think about this guy? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIEq305SizA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DON-aM2tze4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6NYSJQlu6Q Interesting Spud, I learned about anti-war from a Quaker back in 1960 when I was a 1st year grad student at Harvard and Smith, the Quaker, was an older 1st year student. I have looked at every ensuing illegal intervention in foreign nations from their perspective even though I was under contract with the CIA and the Air Force to communicate with Russian and Eastern European scientists and come to an understanding of what motivates Russian scientists; thereby contributing to making our interventions more predictable by their silence- least that was what I was told... Richard -----Original Message----- From: Richard Ruquist <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Jul 4, 2014 7:34 am Subject: Re: American Intelligence Interesting Spud, I learned about anti-war from a Quaker back in 1960 when I was a 1st year grad student at Harvard and Smith, the Quaker, was an older 1st year student. I have looked at every ensuing illegal intervention in foreign nations from their perspective even though I was under contract with the CIA and the Air Force to communicate with Russian and Eastern European scientists and come to an understanding of what motivates Russian scientists; thereby contributing to making our interventions more predictable by their silence- least that was what I was told... Richard On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 7:22 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List <[email protected]> wrote: Richard, because it suited the policies of the Politburo back then. There were no public protests back then. My point is the antiwar folks were emphatically, not, antiwar! Most were not Quakers (American Friends Service Commitee, most were not pacifists, most were Leftists/Marxists/Progressives/Liberals and opposed any military use by the US. They may not have cared who they were for, but they sure cared whom they were against. You may have caught spit from such folk, upon returning from duty, and been called "baby killer!" a chant taken up by the anti-abortionists in the 70's. They, are ever like this today except the assault laws have changed, and with that the inception of camera phones. "Officer, here's a video of these protesters spitting on us!" It would nowadays head for court, with a fine or a sentence for the "war resisters." The Russians were also silent about the US illegal military excursions. The two nations cooperated at the highest levels and all scientific levels. I was a participant. -----Original Message----- From: Richard Ruquist <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Jul 3, 2014 10:03 pm Subject: Re: RE: American Intelligence The Russians were also silent about the US illegal military excursions. The two nations cooperated at the highest levels and all scientific levels. I was a participant. Regarding the Khmer Rouge, they actively fought the Vietnamese and lost, ie.: http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/07/25/cambodia.khmer.rouge.timeline/ Late 1977: Fighting breaks out between Vietnam and Cambodia May 25, 1978: Khmer Rouge purges East Zone. January 7, 1979: The Vietnamese take Phnom Penh, beginning 11 years of Vietnamese occupation. The Khmer Rouge move west. Some Cambodians celebrate January 7 as a liberation day from the Khmer Rouge, while others mark it as the start of Vietnamese occupation On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 7:49 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List <[email protected]> wrote: Richard, you best rev up your memory. The Khmer Rogue joined in with NVA, in their sweeps into Kapuchea. The khmers first order of the day way Sihanouk, or course. This goes to my point that the only anti-war aspect your side is against, is against US participation. Its not like antiwar schmucks are pacifist, its simply that they are progressives against US military use of force. Just as the Left was silent when the CCCP went into Poland and Afghanistan. Its silent on all other nation states military actions-because they really simply want the US and a few other lands gone from the world scene. -----Original Message----- From: Richard Ruquist <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Jul 3, 2014 2:32 pm Subject: Re: RE: American Intelligence Spudboy is mixed up. The Khmer were Cambodians and never attacked us/US even though we bombed them. On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 2:23 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List <[email protected]> wrote: Is there any war you think the US ever should fight? Chris it was like the old war resisters back in the day, when the US was out of Indochina, for the so called anti-war folks, the genocide by the Khmer rouge was a non issue. They were merely against the US military, and nobody else's. Are you one of them, besides a 911 truther? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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