In Robert Heinlein's vericose veined, juvenile novel, Starship Troopers, the right to vote was earned through service in an all volunteer military. I Never liked Heinlein's preachiness, and stridency, because, meh, if that was his mythical society of the 24th century, whats the real incentive, to care about anything? The only incentive was the right to bear young, and the I have to ask, ok, if birthing young was the earned only by military service, so did all their parents serve also?

I don't think you will beat religion, Liz, until you get some sort of afterlife designed somehow?


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From: LizR <[email protected]>
To: everything-list <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Jul 6, 2014 5:37 pm
Subject: Re: Age limit...a modest proposal

At least in Western democracies, ISTM that politics and ideologies are in general kept away from children to a far greater extent than religion is (in religious households). Obviously you have some ideology taken in via the behaviour of parents - if they are status and wealth seeking, or heavily into environmental issues (for example), this is unlikely to pass their children by, as is whether they have lots of books or play lots of sport, and what (if anything) they discuss around the breakfast table (if they eat breakfast together). But in a religious household, you will have the children being made to go to church, say prayers and so on - or whatever is appropriate - more or less on a daily basis. They will either lap this up and become convinced that it is the truth for the rest of their lives, or they will rebel against it at some point (but then their views will tend to be directly opposed to whatever religion they were brought up in ... and they are unlikely to shape off the mindset completely: "give me a child of 5 and I will give you the man", or words to that effect.)




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